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02/29/12 10:00
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#186273 - Not a good design - and expensive
Responding to: ???'s previous message
I guess you have found this schematic on the net somewhere.

The AC-side caps are there as current limiters.

This design is illegal in many countries.
1) It is illegal because the lack of isolation.
2) It is illegal because of the irregular load on mains, affecting the wave form.

Third is that with high-intensity LEDs, control of voltage/current is much more important that with old LEDs. You don't have much margin between "optimum light" and "dead". As noted, transients can kill all your diodes. But so can a slightly higher mains voltage in case you have a three-phase system that gets unbalanced unless you are willing to have enough voltage margin on the series resistor that it can swallow that extra voltage with the LEDs still within proper current range.

Why not create a real solution and use chains of maybe 80V instead? How fast do you need to flash them - can't you use a current-controlled driver?

What is a cost of one (1) accident that burns 50% of your LEDs?
What is the cost if someone manages to touch the circuit and comes after you for compensation?
What is the cost if some inspector sees this design and orders it immediately removed?

List of 27 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
AC Powered LEDs + strobe            01/01/70 00:00      
   Isolated Switch            01/01/70 00:00      
      Switching            01/01/70 00:00      
   Some basics            01/01/70 00:00      
      Not a good design - and expensive            01/01/70 00:00      
         Answers + need some explantion            01/01/70 00:00      
      Cap voltage            01/01/70 00:00      
         More than 280V            01/01/70 00:00      
            Measurement            01/01/70 00:00      
               Measurement correct            01/01/70 00:00      
   two caps polarity reversed on DC!! ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      More common long time ago            01/01/70 00:00      
         I was around then            01/01/70 00:00      
            Some polarized capacitors survives AC but not reversed DC            01/01/70 00:00      
               POOOOOOOOOF            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yes, very likely a failure            01/01/70 00:00      
                     that need bold face            01/01/70 00:00      
            Back to back connection...            01/01/70 00:00      
   And another thing...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Pseudo-CC with resistor requires much % V over resistor            01/01/70 00:00      
      chip            01/01/70 00:00      
         one of these            01/01/70 00:00      
         Chips            01/01/70 00:00      
   PC PSU            01/01/70 00:00      
      Definitely better with lower voltage design            01/01/70 00:00      
         PSU            01/01/70 00:00      
            Some bricks can inform about rating            01/01/70 00:00      

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