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07/26/05 20:42
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Yes, you're right about the builtin bootloader. You must also force a few pins on the device to enter bootloader execution mode; this is what the 74xx125 tri-state buffers shown in Dallas' documentation are for.
I do not know the device, but would it not be possible to make a NoTouch for it?

If that is really the case than this should be the device of choice for students and hobbyists IMHO.
for that I would much more suggest the SILabs offerings (except f3xx) since these have a built-in (free) ICE capability, and I can see no better way to learn/study than to see what goes on inside the chip for each and every step.

If you can run it at moderate frequencies, it's quite manageable, and can still outperform a lot of more conventional 8051-based devices. But, as you head for the upper range of clock speeds, you start running into issues.
This problem is - to some extent - true for any clock speed. A device capable of high speed must - by definition - have steep rise and fall. Steep rise and fall can create havoc on octupus wiring regardless of clock speed.

Erik


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Looking for 80C251 board            01/01/70 00:00      
   DS89C450 is fast 8051.            01/01/70 00:00      
      Cheap 'n' cheerful            01/01/70 00:00      
      builtin bootloader            01/01/70 00:00      
         Common place            01/01/70 00:00      
            good to know            01/01/70 00:00      
               And Texas Instruments            01/01/70 00:00      
                  DS89C4x0            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Not sure            01/01/70 00:00      
                        DS89C420 vs. DS89C430/440/450            01/01/70 00:00      
                     You are probably right            01/01/70 00:00      
                  ok            01/01/70 00:00      
            Death of the Programmer            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes, it's nice            01/01/70 00:00      
            comments            01/01/70 00:00      
      "marketing"            01/01/70 00:00      
         let's put it this way:            01/01/70 00:00      
            Which is exactly what they say ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               overview            01/01/70 00:00      
                  DS'420 IAP            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I'm not polite...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        MAXIM/Dallas and Flash            01/01/70 00:00      
                           common practice today            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Nor forgetting            01/01/70 00:00      
                              DS2250 - Secure Micro            01/01/70 00:00      
      Very nice and informative            01/01/70 00:00      
   Saved a few cents for a lot of work.            01/01/70 00:00      
      In-system programming            01/01/70 00:00      
         ISP Header            01/01/70 00:00      
      schematics?            01/01/70 00:00      
         if you are looking for schematics of ISP            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why on earth            01/01/70 00:00      
   '251 board            01/01/70 00:00      
   if you decide to leave the '51 (which yo            01/01/70 00:00      
   8052.com SBC supports DS89C420            01/01/70 00:00      
   Dead Thread?            01/01/70 00:00      
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