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04/04/12 11:34
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#187004 - Totally 100% Agreed
Responding to: ???'s previous message
You have already demonstrated that you can hook things up in one layer from a connectivity standpoint. This means that you can flood in a FULL Ground Plane on a two layer board and then be able to significantly improve the Power connections on this board and get the bypass closer to the chip pins that need it. Extending Oliver's advice I would suggest that you consider SMT caps for the RS232 level translator chip as well.

I think that this total circuit needs GND plane under it. Not just the USB/FTDI chip parts.

I have used this FTDI chip in several designs with 4 layer boards and had zero problems with them. In one case there were two of the chips used on a board behind a 1->4 USB hub chip inside a piece of lab test equipment that has two 20A SSRs in it perform power switching to server computers under test. We did not experience any USB upset other than the constant issues suffered by USB Comm type devices due to sudden removal of the USB cable while the port is open. The host system software guy for this test setup has made the software smart enough to detect when the sudden removal happens and then invoke system functions that mimic what you can do in Device Manager to forcibly remove hung USB connection so that on next insertion the system can reliably reconnect the same Comm port back up to the running application. Nearly a thousand of these test systems are in use and there has not been any problems with hung FTDI chips.

Michael Karas



List of 36 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
FTDI F232RL Noise issues            01/01/70 00:00      
   GND,cables            01/01/70 00:00      
      of this is it, then            01/01/70 00:00      
   leakage effects..            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks for the comments..            01/01/70 00:00      
         changing the serial port data....            01/01/70 00:00      
         cable, bought off the shelf            01/01/70 00:00      
            Test standard solutions            01/01/70 00:00      
               Options..            01/01/70 00:00      
                  VCP /D2X            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Problem exists with both drivers            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Aten serial to USB cable uses a FTDI chip            01/01/70 00:00      
   FTDI chip ESD sensitivity            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks Oliver...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Zeners are slow            01/01/70 00:00      
         show Your circuit            01/01/70 00:00      
            F232 is USB powered but.. + circuit            01/01/70 00:00      
         USB Isolator Chips            01/01/70 00:00      
            Isolators            01/01/70 00:00      
         Better than zeners            01/01/70 00:00      
            just a thought            01/01/70 00:00      
               Layout            01/01/70 00:00      
                  VCP/Direct drivers            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Layout attached            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It's a high speed circuit !!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Totally 100% Agreed            01/01/70 00:00      
                           the trouble with schematics ....            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Bandwidth limitation            01/01/70 00:00      
   22 ohms between serial port ground and FT232 ground helps...            01/01/70 00:00      
      of course it does            01/01/70 00:00      
         Erik,            01/01/70 00:00      
            Links please            01/01/70 00:00      
               Link...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Solved            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Magnetics            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Ethernet input is connected to serial port ground            01/01/70 00:00      

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