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05/03/10 18:39
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#175633 - Too True
Responding to: ???'s previous message
I don't understand that article at all -- it talks about V2Pro and its hard PPC but, as the other commenter mentioned, it conveniently ignores V4 and V5 which both have flavors that include hard PPCs.

Anyways, my impression -- and that of the Xilinx and Avnet FAEs with whom I've spoken -- is that the academic people love the embedded processors because they can boot Linux on a thousand-dollar eval board, of which they only buy one. But for real products, the embedded-processor parts are too expensive and the performance (especially if you use Xilinx' cores) isn't anything spectacular.

Unless board space is the limiting factor, you're a lot better off buying a standalone PPC and mating it to the FPGA over the processor bus. Really, the various Freescale PPCs have much better DMA engines and DDR2 controllers and Gigabit Ethernet controllers and the two-chip solution ends up being a lot less expensive than a V4, or for G-d's sake a V5.

I couldn't agree more, we had an academic group doing an IP project for us at York university and they insisted on using the xilinx softcore procesor which is really just a glorified state machine, to implment their algorithm, and we said look why dont you implment your alogrithm directly in hardware?, and we got a thousand excuses as why they couldn't do that, so we ended up walking away from the project.
Unless you know that your system is completely set in stone and bullet proof SoC is very expensive and long winded.


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Triscend Fastchip            01/01/70 00:00      
   Try Here            01/01/70 00:00      
      Hmmmm            01/01/70 00:00      
         Zylogic            01/01/70 00:00      
            Elven dialect :)            01/01/70 00:00      
         Thanks for all the info            01/01/70 00:00      
            What did you hope to learn?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Ready to drop the TS505.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I think you mean TE505?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  talk serially to a GSM MODEM            01/01/70 00:00      
   Triscend is dead            01/01/70 00:00      
      All these products            01/01/70 00:00      
         Which products?            01/01/70 00:00      
            You may have seen something other            01/01/70 00:00      
               Quite possibly so            01/01/70 00:00      
      Xilinx hardcore processors            01/01/70 00:00      
         Too True            01/01/70 00:00      
            PicoBlaze vs other Xilinx processing            01/01/70 00:00      
               overblown ecosystem            01/01/70 00:00      
                  overengineered and costly?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     overblown            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I see, thanks Per & Andy            01/01/70 00:00      
   Triscend is dead. Long live Cypress            01/01/70 00:00      
      Cypress PSoC            01/01/70 00:00      
   Triscend tech rep            01/01/70 00:00      

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