should we save the planet by
a) reducing our standard of living -OR-
b) use technology to reduce the 'footprint' of an increased standard of l1ving

the idiots looking for a thing to be fanatical about (and destroy things (the environment) when they demonstrate) all vote a)

I vote b)

I remember Berlin during the wall, on one side there was light and life on the other darkeness and dullness. It seems that the fanatics want us to "go to East Berlin".

Then, of course, the self proclaimed socialists have morphed into the self proclaimed environmentalists to find a new reason to make mayhem whenever something giving them "a reason" happens.

Erik