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03/26/10 15:57
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#174526 - if only it were just a few bottles, etc ...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
This has been on public TV for years, and the thing is growing. There have been other issues as well, since quite a bit of what is washed overboard from freighters on the Pacific often winds up on the beaches of the U.S. West Coast.

I'd favor some sort of import penalty, e.g. 10k percent, imposed on any freight line whose cargo ends up verifiably traceable to the west coast of the U.S. If there were an economic incentive for freight lines to secure their cargoes properly, then insurance would cover the associated losses when a storm or accident causes the loss of an entire ship.

Garbage dumping in the sea has been a problem for decades, yet nobody has concerned themselves with it with sufficient vigor to engender any form of political will to curb it. If there were a $100 deposit on plastic bottles, perhaps that would make a difference. Of course, I'd favor a $100 deposit on glass jars and bottles, too, as most beer bottles could be recycled, but aren't.

The problem with recycling is that municipalities can only afford to recycle what someone else will buy. If there were a price on selling the plastic, glass, cardboard, foam, steel, and aluminum containers that outweighed the monetary efficiency of using and disposing of them, like that $100 deposit on the beer bottle, maybe people would behave differently. After all, the bulk of the price difference between the "best" and "worst" beer isn't in the part you drink, but, rather, in the container and its advertising, since the price difference between the best and worst 12-ounces of beer is about 1 cent, which is 20% of the actual cost of the beer. The rest is advertising, transport, printing, labeling, etc.

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How many here know about this?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Great Pacific Garbage Patch            01/01/70 00:00      
   ???            01/01/70 00:00      
      well,            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
            No I was not            01/01/70 00:00      
               Problem is...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  it's inefficient to dump waste to rivers...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Forum Topic            01/01/70 00:00      
            nothing wrong with the topic, but            01/01/70 00:00      
               What ever...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  so, YOU decide what is 'stupid'            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I don't agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Capitalizim            01/01/70 00:00      
                           My issue was where/how to spend the money            01/01/70 00:00      
                              do not spoon feed            01/01/70 00:00      
                              my take on "where to spend the money"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Fusion power is nice, but not a magic solution            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    No continental sized reactors.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       A problem is a problem even if you don't like it            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          The future            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          ITER is supposed to reach 1:10            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Still not a magic bullet            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Don't build the power plants near the poles, then.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Earth just a black body problem?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      the real issue            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    a cheap solutions with great potential            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       linux vs. vista/xp            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          recall it was there, but not where            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       State of mind            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Don't forget ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           It would work if the deposit were large enough            01/01/70 00:00      
                     if only it were just a few bottles, etc ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yes, I heard same as you            01/01/70 00:00      
            out of sight, out of mind            01/01/70 00:00      
               toxins            01/01/70 00:00      
      Yes, I have heard of it...            01/01/70 00:00      
   I can understand why            01/01/70 00:00      
   We're all doomed anyways...            01/01/70 00:00      
      I know the Answer            01/01/70 00:00      

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