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04/29/09 06:17
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#164923 - I've got an old voice-coil FDD ...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Back in the days when dinosaurs roamed the computer labs ... some hard disks, and even some (Persci) floppy disk drives used voice coils to position the heads. The hard disk drives had very massive positioning mechanisms and multi-ampere drivers for their voice coils.

One thing about loudspeaker coils is that they return to their neutral position when power is removed, and the coils get VERY hot, and, quite promptly, melt when one attempts to keep them in one position for too long. They are, after all, supposed to move (oscillate), constantly, when power is applied.

IIRC, Chico wishes to draw pictures with his laser light source, projecting them onto the wall of a room. Open loop methods may, in fact, be quite adequate, if he has, say, a 12-bit DAC, that might be adequate to drive a voice coil with sufficient accuracy (repeatability) and precision (probably only 9 or 10 of those bits in actual performance) with a properly designed and constructed circuit.

The limitations that either a loudspeaker voice-coil (usable because of his application) or a fixed-disk's voice-coil-driven head stack actuator, impose are mostly mechanical. Each of these will "start slowly and accumulate momentum" along the way. The mass of the moving parts is a major factor. The other factors are probably quite important, too. The viewing angle of the projected image will be nominally 90 degrees, i.e. once on the wall, the image will be consistently proportioned. However, as the projection angle deviates from 90 degrees, the relative velocity of the light beam increases. That can be managed with a cam/follower mechanism, but that increases the mass and reduces his speed.

I'd suggest he study the problem with a stepping motor, which he apparently already knows how to use, accepting, along the way, the rather pedestrian performance of which it's capable, and simply learn about the "other" problems with that system before proceeding to a voice-coil implementation, which will be more complex in both electronics and mechanics.

The drive electronics for that old 1970's-generation 8" floppy disk drive occupied a PCB of about 500 square cm. and required several amperes on each of its four power supplies. The DAC was discretely implemented. There are, today, and have been for decades, monolithic high-power audio amplifiers capable of driving a massive voice coil at audio frequencies with quite reasonable linearity. Even a pixelated (raster) display could be considered with such a device, as the audio power amp would drive the deflection system, but a video speed display driver would modulate the laser signal.

Isn't that worth a thought?

RE


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Circuit name for a "servo"            01/01/70 00:00      
   Something like that?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Specific vs General            01/01/70 00:00      
      Servo motor            01/01/70 00:00      
         Context            01/01/70 00:00      
            Equivalent is a strong word            01/01/70 00:00      
            yebbut            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes, it's just another misnomer            01/01/70 00:00      
   To move data transfer between One proccessor to another one            01/01/70 00:00      
      I have never hear that            01/01/70 00:00      
         Typo ?            01/01/70 00:00      
   I misnamed what I want + info            01/01/70 00:00      
      Open-loop            01/01/70 00:00      
         I've got an old voice-coil FDD ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Voice coils in HDD for quite some time            01/01/70 00:00      
      Look at commercial stuff for inspiration            01/01/70 00:00      
         Hinged mirror            01/01/70 00:00      
            What type of hinge            01/01/70 00:00      
               What Chico has is several angular options            01/01/70 00:00      
                  silicone            01/01/70 00:00      
                     That might work ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Precision relative to amount of modulation            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I don't quite see it            01/01/70 00:00      
                              At least two alternatives            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 There's another way ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Rotating mirrors of limited use            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Link about hazards            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Safety First!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Today, rasters are hard for microcontrollers            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Not necessarily! They don't have to be involved ... much.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Easy first when all parts of the chain are easy            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      It depends on how much you want to draw            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Still pushing rotating mirror, ignoring the problems            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Per, I think you've lost your way            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               Stampede            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  One thing at a time            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     Finally noticing the lack of information from the OP?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                        GREAT links            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                        It's about what people already are doing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                           Not DIY            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                              Let's consider the commercial products.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                 The man who rejected video uses video as his example...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                    You mistake my viewpoint            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                       Chico might care            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                          The reason I don't care ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                             I wouldn't be surprised if Chico has a working projector            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                 Where ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                    8 angled mirrors...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                       Ah.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                plot rates            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Probably better than average, unless small angle            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      In order to have high speed, you must have low mass            01/01/70 00:00      
         Homebuilt laser projector            01/01/70 00:00      
            EXCELLENT!            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, excellent            01/01/70 00:00      

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