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02/22/06 15:00
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#110494 - Pull-downs create problems
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Suresh said:
Can i know how, the source impedence could be maintained low, so that the port pin could fall to logic low state.

Assume you want to connect a simple switch to a port. Now you have at least two options:

1. Using the switch in combination with a pull-up resistor, while the switch connects the port line to ground when being activated.
In this case the source impedance seen by port when inputting logic low state is almost zero. No problems occur.

2. Using the switch in combination with a pull-down resistor, while the switch connects the port line to supply voltage of micro when being activated.
In this case the source impedance seen by port when inputting logic low state is identical to the pull-down resistance. And if this is bigger than about 3kOhm, from our example, then problems will occur!!

So, all interfacing techniques using rather high pull-downs should be avoided with the quasi-bidirectional topology.

Kai

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AT89s52 Port pin clarifications:            01/01/70 00:00      
   nice copy, where is the question            01/01/70 00:00      
   output characteristics            01/01/70 00:00      
      most confusing post            01/01/70 00:00      
   Answers            01/01/70 00:00      
      Logic 1 to 0 transition            01/01/70 00:00      
         You haven't read the 'bible' chapter...            01/01/70 00:00      
            no details about transition from logic 1            01/01/70 00:00      
               other way 'round            01/01/70 00:00      
               There ARE!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  pFET2            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Weak and very weak pull-ups            01/01/70 00:00      
      maintaining low source impedence?            01/01/70 00:00      
         by making thje driver a sink............            01/01/70 00:00      
         Pull-downs create problems            01/01/70 00:00      
            Maximum IOL per port pin: 10 mA ?            01/01/70 00:00      
               IOL            01/01/70 00:00      
                  IOL = 10mA or 1.6mA? in port 1            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Depends on load            01/01/70 00:00      

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