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02/29/12 19:31
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#186294 - A number of thins concern me ...
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Mahmood Elnasser said:
I have a small project to make 10x frequency multiplier, frequency input 1Hz to 70Hz frequency output 10Hz to 700Hz.
I could do it with old techniques like frequency to voltage converter or PLL but that will be boring, hi IC count and pcb space. I want to do it with single chip micro in C or ASM or both.
Frequency input is ac but I can convert it to pulses, frequency output is a TTL square wave.
My first thought is to measure the input pulse width and generate simple dds algorithim.
Any better ideas?
Mahmood


What, exactly, is it that you find boring about using a simple, though long-established method for solving this relatively trivial problem? A PLL with wide capture range can easily deal with this problem, and, as others have already stated, it only takes a coupld of IC's and a few cheap passives requiring perhaps 3 square centimeters of PCB space. It can even be done with one CMOS IC, e.g. one of the MC14515x or 14517x series frequency synthesizers.

I previously mentioned rate multipliers, e.g. 7497 or 74167, or CD4089. If they are too costly (the CD4089 costs $0.52US, IIRC) you can probably replicate all their functions in firmware, since you're operating at a snail's pace frequency.

You haven't really stated what your ultimate goal is. Do you wish to control/adjust the operating speed of the motor, or just display its rate?

RE





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frequency multiplier x 10            01/01/70 00:00      
   You need some specs first.            01/01/70 00:00      
      and even more questions for your tutor            01/01/70 00:00      
   Analog solution...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Input wave form            01/01/70 00:00      
      Too Bad...            01/01/70 00:00      
   have you considered a "rate multiplier"?            01/01/70 00:00      
   PCA?            01/01/70 00:00      
      PCA Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
   Update            01/01/70 00:00      
      2 i.c.s plus 6 R, C            01/01/70 00:00      
      4046 / 7490            01/01/70 00:00      
      I put my bet in the digital solution            01/01/70 00:00      
         digital solution            01/01/70 00:00      
            MCU / CPLD            01/01/70 00:00      
            Simple digital solution...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Engine too fast            01/01/70 00:00      
                  it could be made simpler            01/01/70 00:00      
                     cute            01/01/70 00:00      
               OR            01/01/70 00:00      
   Frequency Multipiler            01/01/70 00:00      
      Motivation?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Motivation ?????????            01/01/70 00:00      
            Motives            01/01/70 00:00      
               OK            01/01/70 00:00      
                  motivation guess            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I had the same feeling...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        and if you looked at any of his previous posts ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   A number of thins concern me ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      answers            01/01/70 00:00      
      Boring...            01/01/70 00:00      
         And in this case...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes ... but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Making what you need, from what you can get..            01/01/70 00:00      
                  slogans            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Is that what the display needs?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     10-700 Hz is expected output frequency - not input frequency            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I did make one mistake            01/01/70 00:00      
                           old rpm analog (or digital) display is what they have            01/01/70 00:00      
                              bursts...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 See LM2917 for ancient tacho examples            01/01/70 00:00      
   PLL            01/01/70 00:00      
   More detail?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Yes, more details, please...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Details            01/01/70 00:00      
            This can have to do ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               sharp edges            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Which phase-detector?            01/01/70 00:00      
               re: this can have            01/01/70 00:00      
                  What I would do...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Very Low Frequency            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Give it a try...            01/01/70 00:00      

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