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11/14/11 22:24
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 		 #184741 - learning about microcontrollers
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Richard Erlacher said:
If he's willing to learn about microcontrollers, I'd favor making it as easy as possible for him. AVR and Arduino won't do that.

Why on earth not?

I would think that Arduino is VERY much better than PC/104 for learning about microcontrollers

I would think that a PC/104 is most ill-suited to learning about microcontrollers - because all the microcontroller details will be physically hidden in a custom chip, and logically hidden behind the BIOS?

First of all, AVR comes from Atmel, and nobody else. There are no other options.

Which, for the purposes of learning is totally irrelevant!

I haven't even bothered to look up where Arduino comes from

And yet you're still happy to condemn it!

It is an open-source hardware platform - not a chip.

It has a very wide following, and there is a great deal of "community" support available; especially for hobby robotics - which is the OP's stated area of interest.

but if it's not as many sources as 805x-core MCU's

There are now very many Arduino-alikes based on many different microcontrollers.
I don't know if there's an 805x one - but there are ARMs...




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How to write programs to internal memory with RS232???            01/01/70 00:00      
   What processor            01/01/70 00:00      
      And the winner is...            01/01/70 00:00      
         fuggetabutit            01/01/70 00:00      
            Hmmmmmm            01/01/70 00:00      
               sure there is            01/01/70 00:00      
               Costly failure            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Well, the UV thing confuses me...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     well, then ....            01/01/70 00:00      
                     OTP or mask-programmed            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Isn't that a clue?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Wrong! It won't work with THIS part!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     8032            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Actually ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           What situation would that be?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I think you're confusing two different parts.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           There's the thing!            01/01/70 00:00      
                              It all depends on what you mean by experienced.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 RE: It all depends on what you mean by, "experienced"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    "Level" is such a relative term            01/01/70 00:00      
                              That's the reason            01/01/70 00:00      
                        8032?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Yes - but is it worth it?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           It's a long, circuitous path ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I have an external UV EPROM            01/01/70 00:00      
                        If you don't know that, ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Unless you have specific interest in vintage electronics ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            So...I've made a decision..sorta            01/01/70 00:00      
               One step at a time            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Any specific one though?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     This one?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not this one!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Hmmm, a goal?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Wrong road!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Regarding knowledge of electronics.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     RE: "fourth grade"            01/01/70 00:00      
                        RE:RE:Fourth grade            01/01/70 00:00      
               if the "self taught home-school class" refer to the archaric            01/01/70 00:00      
                  When throwing out bathwater, take care to retain baby...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     out of sheer nostalgia            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It might, in fact, be a good thing to go back farther            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Interesting            01/01/70 00:00      
                           You need to know much more about two things ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  About other processors            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The prices were on the page!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     SiLabs Boards            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Integrated            01/01/70 00:00      
                     here            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Code flash not always able to replace EEPROM            01/01/70 00:00      
                           agreed            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
               Maybe a heretic idea...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  There's a problem with these ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Not for the intended purpose....            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Single source            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Just another chance.....            01/01/70 00:00      
                        If you read his entire post ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I have six other microprocessors that i found yesterday            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Well, this is not the PIC forum ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I was just saying...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              'found'stuff            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I have to agree, conditionally            01/01/70 00:00      
                           learning about microcontrollers            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Arduino is a very good choice if not going 8051 route            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Careful, now ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     spend some $$$ on an already-assembled product            01/01/70 00:00      
                        in for a penny, in for a pound ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Still easier to learn to program before bringing up first hw            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I'm not so sure ... maybe we'll just have to disagree            01/01/70 00:00      
               If you're really serious about this ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  tools and such            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Well ... maybe your Dad can fill you in on some details            01/01/70 00:00      
         re: 8052            01/01/70 00:00      
            Switched            01/01/70 00:00      
            no offense, but that's incorrect.            01/01/70 00:00      

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