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10/12/10 07:24
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#179059 - The normal fluke doesn't give 0.1C correct readings
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Oversampling doesn't solve your real problems.

Oversampling can be used for a number of reasons. To move the break frequency for a low-pass filter way outside the frequency range of the measured signal, so a low-order filter with good phase behaviour can be used.

It can also be used to reduce problems with individual steps in the ADC not being at their theoretical positions, i.e. you sample many times, while adding a known random offset to the signal just to get the sampling to happen at different locations on the ADC curve. It can both increase the resolution of the sampling process and solve some of the linearity problems with the ADC.

But there are even 16-bit or 20-bit or 24-bit ADC. It's far harder to get 0.1 degree [u]precision[/u] from the sensor than it is to get 0.1 degree resolution from the electronics that samples the sensor.

Matching a Fluke? What Fluke. A "cheap" Fluke isn't really cheap. And it will not manage any 0.1C and be correct about it. And a tremendously expensive Fluke can't be matched with a cheap hobby design.

What do the customer [u]really[/u] need? Something that really gives 0.1C correct readings? Something that fools him into thinking he has that precision? Something else?

List of 24 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Measure temperature @0.1deg resolution using thermistor            01/01/70 00:00      
   Sorry - doesn't work            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thermistors aren't such bad...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Remember the original requirement of 0.1°C            01/01/70 00:00      
   Resolution is not there...            01/01/70 00:00      
      What about the Termistor            01/01/70 00:00      
      RE: Resolution is not there...            01/01/70 00:00      
         one-wire sensors are still quite expensive than thermistors            01/01/70 00:00      
            Thermistor Vs one-wire sensor cost            01/01/70 00:00      
               Your processor has a voltage reference good enough?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Voltage reference            01/01/70 00:00      
                     That voltage reference has large error...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Vref is Not Needed            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Depends            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Ah but,            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Still not trivial            01/01/70 00:00      
         The normal fluke doesn't give 0.1C correct readings            01/01/70 00:00      
         I think your customer ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            quite common problem with resolution/precision            01/01/70 00:00      
         linearing only solves one issue            01/01/70 00:00      
            Precision            01/01/70 00:00      
               hm            01/01/70 00:00      
               Not an opamp            01/01/70 00:00      
               Comparison with Fluke a big problem            01/01/70 00:00      

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