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07/16/10 21:46
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#177333 - many different opinions/views for the same issue
Responding to: ???'s previous message
The OP is trying to figure out how to set the firing angle (phase control) of a triac controlling a load at mains 230V AC. The schematic as posted has major flaws and needs redesign and the code part too. The most siple way to start is to achive the ON/OFF of a resistive load using a read ZDC as MOC3041 as mentioned here.

Another idea is to use the Analog Comparator inside the AT89C2051. Ideas for this are presented in the mentioned application notes from NXP. Ideas to be considered as examples and guides in HW and SW part. The actual circuit can be implemented either following every line or by opening the mind of the OP with new posibilites and knowledge.

The AT89C2051 does not support In System Programming, so the OP has to pull out the chip from the actual circuit, place it on the programmer, load the hex file, and place back the chip to the circuit. So to program the chip even if the power directly from mains had chosen (carefully designed) does not threat the system in operation.

The schematic posted is designed using a transformer to provide power to the circuit but the zero crossing part has to be corrected to a lot of things.

Even the in the summary of schematics a flaw exists in figure 18. Can you spot it ?

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TopicAuthorDate
triac firing angle            01/01/70 00:00      
   is the output loaded?            01/01/70 00:00      
      o/p side            01/01/70 00:00      
         at output side we have connected fan            01/01/70 00:00      
            230v ac fan            01/01/70 00:00      
               it would not            01/01/70 00:00      
                  230v ac blub            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Suppose?            01/01/70 00:00      
   so it's down to your scribbles            01/01/70 00:00      
   So many questions            01/01/70 00:00      
      discription            01/01/70 00:00      
         why bother            01/01/70 00:00      
         Try this            01/01/70 00:00      
         Another potential problem            01/01/70 00:00      
            e-mail address            01/01/70 00:00      
               no need for a circuit diagrem, but ..            01/01/70 00:00      
               RE: I'm not able to attach my circuit diagram            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Not Me...........            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Oops            01/01/70 00:00      
   My Method to post circuit diagram            01/01/70 00:00      
      website address            01/01/70 00:00      
         orcad            01/01/70 00:00      
         Read the instructions!            01/01/70 00:00      
            schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
               Link            01/01/70 00:00      
               Follow the instructions!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Two LEDs ?!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     This might be the problem            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Or this might be the problem...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Don't understand            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Re zero-crossing, still has no been answered            01/01/70 00:00      
                     There are none so blind as those that will not see...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        working but not getting satisfication            01/01/70 00:00      
                        working but not getting satisfication            01/01/70 00:00      
                           What did you expect?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              which will ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 RE: "indentions"            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Redesign needed            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Problematic...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           The Triac firing angle can be set using the Analog Comp.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Danger!            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Caution to hobbiest            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Some hints to start the circuit working            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    The OP's schematic *is* isolated            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       People tend to consider processors "safe"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Isolation            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       many different opinions/views for the same issue            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          RE: The schematic as posted has major flaws            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      

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