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04/29/10 07:25
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#175519 - Stay away from anything with PMPO rating
Responding to: ???'s previous message
The important thing is that the amplifier should specify continuous power. Traditionally, the DIN measure was at 8 ohm and at a specified (and low) distortion level.

Today, just about any music device specifies PMPO - Peam Music Power Output - which is just a random figure how much they can charge the capacitors. It has no relation at all to true power output (continuous power rms) and to what distortion level you will get in real life. Having a power figure specified as PMPO obviously means that the amplifier will fail to produce a reasonsably distortion-free sine as soon as the capacitors are emptied and the PSU gets on its knees, begging for mercy. And besides - as already mentioned earlier - mot of the design would not have enough cooling to keep up.

In loudspeakers,not only the high-frequency elements, but also the filters, will quickly die if suffering any significant amount of power at higher frequency. I had to send two elements to get the coils rewinded after I managed a feedback loop with the vinyl player. Luckilly, the speaker manufacturer Dali did in original always custom-rewind the coils of that element so it wasn't too expensive. Multi-element speakers have a huge difference in amount of power they can handle in low and high frequencies. It can be a factor 20 or more. On the other hand, it doesn't take much power to kill our hearing at higher frequencies.

List of 33 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Audio amplifier            01/01/70 00:00      
   Probably            01/01/70 00:00      
   kHz            01/01/70 00:00      
      Probably too small amp            01/01/70 00:00      
   Usually not...            01/01/70 00:00      
      specs            01/01/70 00:00      
         Real PA Manufacturers...            01/01/70 00:00      
            rms power ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               "Continuous sine wave power" rated in "RMS Watts"...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Oh yes there is            01/01/70 00:00      
            So hold on then            01/01/70 00:00      
               Exactly!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Stay away from anything with PMPO rating            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Numbers...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Standards            01/01/70 00:00      
   What's it for?            01/01/70 00:00      
      WOW            01/01/70 00:00      
         transucers            01/01/70 00:00      
            Example Ideas...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Piezos are capacitive            01/01/70 00:00      
            Derating            01/01/70 00:00      
               You still haven't said what it's for!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  The question is            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Not meaningful to guess - we will just produce random noise            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Take any            01/01/70 00:00      
                           600W, how to calculate?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              600W            01/01/70 00:00      
                           But why do you think that it is relevant?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              relevant?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 High power at high frequencies definitely dangerous.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Like or dislike isnt a point            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       rms should be the same, but you can bend the truth a bit            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Compression driver is what you need...            01/01/70 00:00      

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