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04/14/09 08:19
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#164577 - Before I posted
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Richard Erlacher said:
Which is quite often ...

I solder a 1K-ohm resistor between pins 13 and 12 and another between pins 10 and 11 of a 74HC04. Then, I solder a 150 pF cap between pins 12 and 11 of that same IC. Then I solder a wire between pins 10 and 9, and then, last but not least, I solder a crystal, and this has worked well for crystals ranging from 4 MHz to 15 MHz, though I admit it could be better if more carefully designed, between pins 13 and 10, and VOILA! I have a 14-pin oscillator with its buffered output at pin 9, where it would appear on a commercial oscillator can, with its complement at pin 10 and can, actually, use the remaining inverters in the package for something else, including another oscillator with its output on pin 6. When I do the latter, the interaction between the two is not easily observable, so I assume it's safe. I've been doing this since the '70's, though it's much easier with 0603 or 0805 components than with the old through-hole types we used in the '70's.

I've found that this works with 74C04's (~CD4069), though it's somewhat frequency limited, 7404, 7414, 74LS04, 74LS14, 74ALS04, 74ALS14, 74HC04, 74HC14, 74HCT14, 74HCT04, 74AC04, 74ACT14, 74S04, 74S14, and 74F04. I haven't tried it with every conceivable hex-inverter in that pinout, but I suspect it would work just as well. I've used the same circuit in wire-wrap, and on PCB, and with SO components on PCB as well. I can't imagine why someone would want a 5- or 6- pin component, since that would probably mean large up-front NRE charges.

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Before I posted..I'm planned with above.
Just like similiar with another projects but different situation.

Thank you very much
Jeckson Ben


List of 39 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Change 4 pins oscilator with 2 pins XTal            01/01/70 00:00      
   You mean "how to make an oscillator"?            01/01/70 00:00      
    4 pins oscillator            01/01/70 00:00      
      Are you sure            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes,replacing osc module with Xtal only            01/01/70 00:00      
            Can you post the schematic ?            01/01/70 00:00      
               looking..            01/01/70 00:00      
                  No the complete one including MCU etc as            01/01/70 00:00      
                     controller model should be enough            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Schematic would be even more helpful            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Good point            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Just injected to OSC1 at HC08            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 have a look here            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    miss the point            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       You need an oscillator, which can be strobed?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I'm looking            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Bigger            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                10 Mhz            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   I guess...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      bigger than osc.module            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         DS1077 ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            without crystal            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               Have you ever seen one anywhere?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               Give more information            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  I read it differently            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     Original request seems to have been fixed-frequency            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                        but he wants 5 or six pins ... Heaven only knows why ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                           Phases or output-enable probably            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                              When I am in a hurry ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                 Sounds like a good idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                    I haven't found any so far ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                 Before I posted            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     got my point            01/01/70 00:00      
   oscillator v crystal            01/01/70 00:00      
      What microcontroller?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Sorry not MCS-51 it's freescale/motorola            01/01/70 00:00      
      Not tied directly to MCU            01/01/70 00:00      
         Tell us microcontroller            01/01/70 00:00      
            Very Important Question !!            01/01/70 00:00      

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