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03/29/09 17:36
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#163968 - Are you sure
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Ap Charles said:
Ben , When you look at the Crystal from the back that SMD one it has a chamfered edge at one of its pad now this and the diagonal one is the main connections for the MCU . The other diagonal one are GND .

-Ap

He has not posted any part number for the component he has, so are you sure that you know the pinout?

In this case, he claims that one connector is VCC and one is GND. This means that it is not a crystal with two ground pins, but it a complete oscillator module that contains electronics to produce a digital output signal. These modules can be had with 3.3V or 5V digital output for direct connection to digital inputs of a processor or to discrete logic.

A crystal on the other hand requires that you feed a signal on one side of the crystal, to drive it, and pick up an analog signal from the other side of the crystal. One crystal pin of the processor is driving the crystal, and one is detecting the oscillation. Some processors - not all - can accept both a crystal or a direct digital signal on the input, so you may even connect a complete temperature-compensated oscillator module to such processors. The datasheet for the specific processor, or application examples, should normally tell if the processor requires both pins to be used for a crystal, or if one can be ignored, and the other used with a digital clock signal.

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TopicAuthorDate
Change 4 pins oscilator with 2 pins XTal            01/01/70 00:00      
   You mean "how to make an oscillator"?            01/01/70 00:00      
    4 pins oscillator            01/01/70 00:00      
      Are you sure            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes,replacing osc module with Xtal only            01/01/70 00:00      
            Can you post the schematic ?            01/01/70 00:00      
               looking..            01/01/70 00:00      
                  No the complete one including MCU etc as            01/01/70 00:00      
                     controller model should be enough            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Schematic would be even more helpful            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Good point            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Just injected to OSC1 at HC08            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 have a look here            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    miss the point            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       You need an oscillator, which can be strobed?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I'm looking            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Bigger            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                10 Mhz            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   I guess...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      bigger than osc.module            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         DS1077 ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            without crystal            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               Have you ever seen one anywhere?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               Give more information            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  I read it differently            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     Original request seems to have been fixed-frequency            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                        but he wants 5 or six pins ... Heaven only knows why ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                           Phases or output-enable probably            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                              When I am in a hurry ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                 Sounds like a good idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                    I haven't found any so far ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                 Before I posted            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     got my point            01/01/70 00:00      
   oscillator v crystal            01/01/70 00:00      
      What microcontroller?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Sorry not MCS-51 it's freescale/motorola            01/01/70 00:00      
      Not tied directly to MCU            01/01/70 00:00      
         Tell us microcontroller            01/01/70 00:00      
            Very Important Question !!            01/01/70 00:00      

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