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05/09/08 23:01
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#154630 - Getting around Windows
Every once in a while it would be nice to program a PC to put out a certain waveform one of the printer port pins, or to send something out the serial port with some sort of reasonably precise timing.

Back in the good old days, this was easy; any program you wrote, once running, could take over the entire machine and do anything it wanted. The gory details of the hardware were simple and well documented. There was no protection mechanism to prevent you from banging directly on the hardware. There was no such thing as having your program preempted periodically by the OS.

Is it possible to realize such an environment on a modern PC without having all of its user-friendly, plug-and-play, configure-itself hardware get in the way?

Will plain old DOS run on modern hardware the way it did once upon a time?

Is there some non-protected version of Linux that will allow the kind of thing I'm talking about?

Would it be reasonably feasible to make a modern PC boot directly into a user-written program rather than into Windows?

-- Russ


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Getting around Windows            01/01/70 00:00      
   That is the point            01/01/70 00:00      
      The point of Windows, yes, but not what I want            01/01/70 00:00      
         Boot from floppy or CD            01/01/70 00:00      
            I use removable HDD's            01/01/70 00:00      
         create MS-DOS floppy in XP/SP2            01/01/70 00:00      
            Put DOS on            01/01/70 00:00      
         That would be easier            01/01/70 00:00      
         some doubts            01/01/70 00:00      
         FreeDOS?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Virtualize.            01/01/70 00:00      
      Or simulate.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Doesn't virtualise/simulate timing            01/01/70 00:00      
            You are correct,,,,            01/01/70 00:00      
   Buy a signal generator            01/01/70 00:00      
   Thanks for all the hints            01/01/70 00:00      
   Some related good stuff from Richard Erlacher            01/01/70 00:00      
      depending on what do you mean by "waveform"...            01/01/70 00:00      
         the PC is just another programmable device            01/01/70 00:00      
            sure it is...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Did you miss the point?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I do understand that well enough...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I think you're fooling yourself            01/01/70 00:00      
                        oh, not the 8042!            01/01/70 00:00      
   are there equivalent 805x devices?            01/01/70 00:00      
      8051SL            01/01/70 00:00      
         Interesting ... I never encountered that one ...            01/01/70 00:00      

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