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11/07/06 23:32
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#127524 - a paper trail and lots of sunlight ...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Yes, a paper trail is necessary.

However, unless everyone can observe the code that's used to operate the voting machine, at least everyone who has to verify how it works and that it works, and that it works as it is supposed to do, the whole system's in the toilet.

We here in the U.S. had a huge automated mail routing system built by various contractors, at least one of whom is involved in the autmated voting business now, and it took ten years to get it working properly.

We here in Denver, had a new airport built, which had an automated baggage handling system that was built by one of these contractors, also. It took six years and a second contractor, who essentially rebuilt the entire control system for it, before it was useable.

Large contractors don't do things well. None of them, and nothing!

If everyone got to see how sloppy their code is, they'd tighten it up. If everyone saw how unreliable their hardware is, they'd not produce such rubbish. Right now they can hide behind trade-secrets laws. If the hardware could be patented but had to be published (Patent does mean "open" doesn't it?) and everyone who competed for the job could see what's been done badly by the others, wouldn't it produce a better product?

When all was said and done, we'd have several manufacturers, each of which knew exactly how all the functional blocks in the system had to work and how to make them do so. That would mean that one or another contractor "going under" wouldn't run us out of suppliers.

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List of 19 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
automated voting            01/01/70 00:00      
   I think you fell off the rocker            01/01/70 00:00      
      Huh?            01/01/70 00:00      
         tamper and audit            01/01/70 00:00      
            Backwards            01/01/70 00:00      
               lack of relevance            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Not a problem for the real "bad guys" ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     reversed argtument            01/01/70 00:00      
   electronic voting, a very very very bad idea.            01/01/70 00:00      
      you can read Schneier on security here            01/01/70 00:00      
   Automated voting - a good idea.            01/01/70 00:00      
      a paper trail and lots of sunlight ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Did you accidentally vote for Pat Buchannan?            01/01/70 00:00      
      If that were the case ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Cute!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Often thought that            01/01/70 00:00      
      Sadly, there's ample reason to agree ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   I think you are entirely missing the point            01/01/70 00:00      
      I don't think that's necessary            01/01/70 00:00      

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