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#115798 - Is your design based on luck? Responding to: ???'s previous message |
So, it highly depends on the properties
WHO GIVES A HOOT ABOUT "but what abt the thing that not all my machines in the same environment have the same static problem some run fine for years without any occurence of static problem" Is your design based on luck? That some machines work is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT, I have seen a case where the unchecked coating of a PCB made the difference, does that mean that the coating should be checked? ABSOLUTELY NOT, it means that the circuit should be redesigned so that the coating did not matter.. A safe (as in reliable) product is DESIGNED That some work, some don't, just show the total irrelevance of TESTING. Protect the inputs, apply ALL you find in the FAQ "How can I resolve noise problems?", DO NOT "try this, try that" the only way that can be "checked" is by "testing which is WORTHLESS! You are trying to find an easy way out there is NONE. Redesign with static on the forefront of your mind and then when you have DESIGNED a safe circuit install it and you can forget about "testing" for ESD. If you need to test, your design is faulty. That, of course, does not mean that you should not test, just that realying on "testing" is totally irresponsible. Erik |
Topic | Author | Date |
ESD problem | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
try isolating signal gnd from earth | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
thanks richard | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Watchdog not really useful | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
hi kalpak | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
re watchdog, never said better | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
hi steve | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
that will NOT help | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
hello erik sir | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
activating the the watchdog while error | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
hello erik sir | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Pick off brush ? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
yes | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
this may help | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
So what? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Ouch | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
protecting the human | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
But.. | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
And what if... | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
ESDĀ¬precautions | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
static | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Not from 10mm away! | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Bad ground | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Earthing problem! | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
It was observed... | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
TAKE CARE! | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Is your design based on luck? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
how do I | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Some instructions and guideline | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Thank You steve sir | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
two reasons not to | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Posting Diagrams | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
It's a pdf-file | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Where? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Oh, sorry! | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Filename | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Name | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Post it to me. | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Link | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Perfectly! | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
How | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Aha... | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
fix it and repost | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Buttons? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
No | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
sorry | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Try | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
the simple way is | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Thank you | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
For those who need a link to the code | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
after seeing the link | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
So, now you understand why "all of you o | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Can't open cdr-files | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Some questions? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Yes you are right | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
oops | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Test | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Yes | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
stop the frtiggin babble! | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
I guess | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Photographs ? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
steve sir | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
No photographs ? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Sorry | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
so, it is OUR job | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
I had | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Ground, earth, soil,... | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Spark gaps ? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
maybe he was, but ... | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Good for surges, but for ESD? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Thank you | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Some more questions | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Yes | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Frame, rollers bearings | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Kai, is it time? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Hallelujah! | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
The mess with... | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Semi isolating semi conducting enclosure | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
I can't see why... | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
I never understood why either, but ... | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Measurement | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Forget the watchdog! | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
kai sir | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Hallo? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
kai sir | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
What do you expect from a watchdog? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Unpleasant. | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Which is why I doubt it is ESD | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Curiouser and curiouser | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
instruments | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
you can't | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Diagnosis ... | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
the difference can be 'legal' | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
expensive is not always expensive | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Exactly! | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Killing shock ? | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Who says that... | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Trying to improve the performance... | 01/01/70 00:00 | |
Thank you kai sir | 01/01/70 00:00 |