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08/31/05 00:09
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#100315 - The wise men have spoken
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik Malund said:
It takes time (=money) to write code, why would anyone give it away.

Oh yes, and in my experience, implementing reliable comms on an inexpensive RF link is not a "slam-dunk".

I have given away a lot of code in my day that is worthy of being given away -- the no-brainer stuff, software UARTs included.

But I have even given away valuable code to those demonstrating their eagerness to learn. One of my peeves are those (family members included ;-(, I am sad to report) who say "I want to know what Dan knows and do what Dan does", but when it comes down to it, they would really prefer to not put forth that much effort! Yet people who have been true learners, I have given away valuable code and my time to tutor. So Mr. Joshi is now in my "peeve zone".

Steve Taylor said:
I used to think the same as you, that a chunk of free code would solve all my problems, but the times I did use it, I ended having to understand the algorithms underlying the code before it did what I needed it to do ...

Yeah, that's it, what he said!

I was trying to prod Mr. Joshi along into asking the right questions and perhaps even answering those questions himself having gained an understanding and knowledge (with guidance, of course).

Andy Neil said:
Even if someone gave you their software UART code, that would not teach you anything about whether asynchronous NRZ signalling is actually a good idea in this application, would it?

And let's say I sent the fellow, not software UART code, but something that stands a chance of working on an RF link. Then we'd end up with the worlds longest thread about (some [hopefully] subset of) receiver conditioning, noise filtering, state machines, channel coding, clock recovery (probably not for his short messages), data recovery, error detection/correction, blah, blah, blah.

This is why I think he needs to understand his problem domain and his solution set.

List of 34 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Serial RF with AT89C51 to AT89C51            01/01/70 00:00      
   Lineks ?            01/01/70 00:00      
   UARTs and ASK            01/01/70 00:00      
      Software driven UART - Bit-banging            01/01/70 00:00      
         Channel coding            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes but...            01/01/70 00:00      
               What is the hardware UART not doing?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Hardware UART            01/01/70 00:00      
                     RF links pose challenges, but anyway...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Spend the money or do the hard work?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        So many, so often, forget that design is            01/01/70 00:00      
   Rendering            01/01/70 00:00      
      Me too !            01/01/70 00:00      
      nope, just like any other (IE)            01/01/70 00:00      
         Disappointed!            01/01/70 00:00      
            What is the purpose of "learning" our co            01/01/70 00:00      
            Sorry but            01/01/70 00:00      
            End of wrong stick?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Learning? Dealing with disappoinment            01/01/70 00:00      
            What you need to learn            01/01/70 00:00      
               Apology            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Recommendation            01/01/70 00:00      
                  A short backgrounder            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Missing the point            01/01/70 00:00      
   The wise men have spoken            01/01/70 00:00      
   UARTs, the last word Mr. Joshi            01/01/70 00:00      
      *Groan* Here is my inital code            01/01/70 00:00      
         Does it work ?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Does it work at all?            01/01/70 00:00      
         The Point.            01/01/70 00:00      
            why analyze how deep the water is before            01/01/70 00:00      
         TF2 needs to be cleared in interrupt            01/01/70 00:00      
         the right way to get help definitely is            01/01/70 00:00      
         Pinching a loaf            01/01/70 00:00      

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