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09/22/11 16:55
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#183850 - There are ways ...
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You're right, of course, in that there are such things as package power dissipation limits, etc, which demand that you concern yourself with the power effects of driving many small loads. However, you also have to consider that, when the remote end is powered down, it won't matter much whether your device can "drive" the otherwise unconnected cable. The terminations might be a concern, but, in the event the remote end is powered down or disconnected, the consequence will likely (you have to figure it out for yourself, of course) be too brief to have consequence at the driving end.

A bit of programmable logic at each end might reduce the need for cabling, though I was going to mention that I have occasionally used coax ribbon cable, i.e. a unified flat ribbon of small-diameter, e.g. RG174-sized 50-ohm or 93-ohm cables. Those might allow you to press things up to a much higher throughput and lower latency than putting, say, 40 signals on a single coax and muxing them with your programmable logic.

If the latency isn't a problem, and if the overall throughput weren't a concern, I'd explore the single coax first. Even UTP (Cat6) might be an option with the appropriate PLD. Many FPGA's support LVDS or PECL and other popular low-voltage high-speed signaling options.

Separate ECL transceivers might also be an option if you are using only a single COAX or pair. In such a case, a target-specific adapter board and cable might be just the thing you need, and it wouldn't limit your options the next time such a problem comes around. Moreover, in the development cycle, you can try different approaches to the physical transceiver to see what best meets your needs.

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Bit-configurable transceiver chips            01/01/70 00:00      
   Suggesting....again...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Alas 5V needed and ribbon cables are a bit "rough"            01/01/70 00:00      
   Another Suggestion....            01/01/70 00:00      
   level translator            01/01/70 00:00      
      Alas, "weak output drive" and no input hysterese            01/01/70 00:00      
      TI sn74gtl2010            01/01/70 00:00      
         or NXP GTL2010,GTL2000            01/01/70 00:00      
            looks promising            01/01/70 00:00      
            NXP GTL20xx -> NVT20xx            01/01/70 00:00      
         Need to read more to understand them            01/01/70 00:00      
            looks like the cat's miauw            01/01/70 00:00      
   NXP has ....            01/01/70 00:00      
      I2C or SPI just can't get even close to the huge bandwidth            01/01/70 00:00      
         nope, no I²C clocks            01/01/70 00:00      
            extender, not expander            01/01/70 00:00      
   I have been wondering this myself            01/01/70 00:00      
      Supported capacitance seems to be the snag            01/01/70 00:00      
   Differential SPI            01/01/70 00:00      
      Serial -> buffers on adapter boards is a potential solution            01/01/70 00:00      
   Have you considered programmable logic?            01/01/70 00:00      
      I had suggested this as well            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes ... I remember that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Long life            01/01/70 00:00      
               They seem to live a long time ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Adapters            01/01/70 00:00      
                     These aren't necessarily so "huge"            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Not huge in size            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Some of them can handle that.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Yes and no            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 There are ways ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Body diodes            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       serial termination ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Yes, current- and bandwidth-limiting components used            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             you youing whippersnappers, pay attention            01/01/70 00:00      
            pedantry, again            01/01/70 00:00      
               What would YOU suggest?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Here's a thought ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Probably            01/01/70 00:00      
         I'd sugest you consider older CPLD's            01/01/70 00:00      

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