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09/12/11 20:37
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#183728 - extender, not expander
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Ok. I thought you meant a I2C bus expander like:
http://www.ti.com/product/pcf8575

But you were thinking about a buffer chip to allow the I2C signals to be routed a longer distance.

So actually not a I2C bus expander, but a I2C bus extender. Something like:
http://www.nxp.com/#/pip/pip=[pip=P82B715]|pp=[t=pip,i=P82B715]
New link - above not 8052-safe even when using 'Link' button:
http://www.nxp.com/pip/P82B715.html
<RANT>Thanks to web developers who do not read through the HTTP standard regarding valid characters in an URL. All "trial-and-error" and if the web browser finds the page, then it must be correct.</RANT>

A question then is if there would exist any such buffers that would support 5MHz, which isn't exactly a normal I2C data rate.
And if such a bus expander have one clock and one data line, I would probably need around 70 chips, to get 70 auto-reversable data lines.

Just looking at the P82B715, Digi-Key claims $1.60 at 10k volume. I wonder if that route would allow me to get below $0.50/signal or $35 / board even if scanning all potential chips.

List of 40 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Bit-configurable transceiver chips            01/01/70 00:00      
   Suggesting....again...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Alas 5V needed and ribbon cables are a bit "rough"            01/01/70 00:00      
   Another Suggestion....            01/01/70 00:00      
   level translator            01/01/70 00:00      
      Alas, "weak output drive" and no input hysterese            01/01/70 00:00      
      TI sn74gtl2010            01/01/70 00:00      
         or NXP GTL2010,GTL2000            01/01/70 00:00      
            looks promising            01/01/70 00:00      
            NXP GTL20xx -> NVT20xx            01/01/70 00:00      
         Need to read more to understand them            01/01/70 00:00      
            looks like the cat's miauw            01/01/70 00:00      
   NXP has ....            01/01/70 00:00      
      I2C or SPI just can't get even close to the huge bandwidth            01/01/70 00:00      
         nope, no I²C clocks            01/01/70 00:00      
            extender, not expander            01/01/70 00:00      
   I have been wondering this myself            01/01/70 00:00      
      Supported capacitance seems to be the snag            01/01/70 00:00      
   Differential SPI            01/01/70 00:00      
      Serial -> buffers on adapter boards is a potential solution            01/01/70 00:00      
   Have you considered programmable logic?            01/01/70 00:00      
      I had suggested this as well            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes ... I remember that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Long life            01/01/70 00:00      
               They seem to live a long time ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Adapters            01/01/70 00:00      
                     These aren't necessarily so "huge"            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Not huge in size            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Some of them can handle that.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Yes and no            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 There are ways ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Body diodes            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       serial termination ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Yes, current- and bandwidth-limiting components used            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             you youing whippersnappers, pay attention            01/01/70 00:00      
            pedantry, again            01/01/70 00:00      
               What would YOU suggest?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Here's a thought ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Probably            01/01/70 00:00      
         I'd sugest you consider older CPLD's            01/01/70 00:00      

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