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09/30/09 00:29
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#169279 - Sufficient: probably. Complete: no
Responding to: ???'s previous message
The issue here was that the OP claimed that at89c51 was the complete name of the chip, which it isn't.

Most people would also know what a 747-400 is, but it is still not the complete name, but just a model. And it still doesn't contain information about selected options.

I drive a V70 XC, which is probably sufficient. But it wouldn't be complete without mentioning that it is a Volvo. And in this case, I would probably need to add the model year too, just as at least newer processor generations makes it important to give the full name including stepping when discussing problems where errata may be involved.

In the case of the AT89C51, it seems like all the extra characters at the end of a full name "Atmel AT89C51-16PC", only controls maximum clock speed, package type and temperature range. But some other processors may have extra I/O for a 44-pin PLCC chip compared to the 40pin DIP version. Some Atmel AVR chips have 8 ADC inputs for the PLCC version and 4 ADC inputs for DIP version.

List of 38 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
C# compiler            01/01/70 00:00      
   Not C#            01/01/70 00:00      
      thank very much            01/01/70 00:00      
      another question            01/01/70 00:00      
         the same answer            01/01/70 00:00      
         if you compare datasheets, instruction set ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Are you teasing, Richard?            01/01/70 00:00      
               My point, exactly!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  He is a beginner            01/01/70 00:00      
                     He needs to understand the tools            01/01/70 00:00      
                        When all you have is a hammer            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Does the 8052 meet his needs?            01/01/70 00:00      
   a comment, not a 'bashing'            01/01/70 00:00      
      Probably too detailed?            01/01/70 00:00      
         C#            01/01/70 00:00      
            Hmmmm ... JAVA for 8-bitters?            01/01/70 00:00      
               It exists            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I don't doubt it for a minute!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Windows not (necessarily) required            01/01/70 00:00      
               I stand Corrected            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I wonder how it compares to C++            01/01/70 00:00      
   another update            01/01/70 00:00      
      No            01/01/70 00:00      
         Lucky this time?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Sufficient: probably. Complete: no            01/01/70 00:00      
               it's probably sufficient to say you drive a volvo            01/01/70 00:00      
                  You sure?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Yes, but just name Volvo says it all ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It's probably best not to mention that you drive a Volvo            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Well, I don't ... I drive a Nissan Maxima            01/01/70 00:00      
                        [UK] "Volvo Drivers"            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Have to consider getting the book            01/01/70 00:00      
         Give the guy a break!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Not the issue            01/01/70 00:00      
               It's not quite the same with part numbers            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Not necessarily true, though?            01/01/70 00:00      
      the full name of the chip is at89c51            01/01/70 00:00      
   Is this thread now finished?            01/01/70 00:00      

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