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09/29/09 15:34
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#169262 - a comment, not a 'bashing'
Responding to: ???'s previous message
We do, quite frequently see posts from people that beleieve that the '51 is "just another processor" ("is there a C++ compiler", "what RTOS do I use", "I can't find file I/O", ....)

I would STRONGLY recommend to the OP and such posters that they do not just jump into programming the '51, if they "jump into it" they will end up with a nightmare. I recall one occasion where I was asked to help a couple of such implementing banking since they were running out of space in 64k and, after seeing their 'efforts' threw the whole thing out and ended up with ~4k of code doing the job.

SO, if you are new to the '51 do two things before you do anything else
a) read "the bible" more than once
b) regardless of which compiler you end up using work through (I did not say 'read') the Keil "getting started guide"

Erik

PS it is bloody awful that one has to title like I did to avoid a thread getting off track with "poor little beginners" posts.

List of 38 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
C# compiler            01/01/70 00:00      
   Not C#            01/01/70 00:00      
      thank very much            01/01/70 00:00      
      another question            01/01/70 00:00      
         the same answer            01/01/70 00:00      
         if you compare datasheets, instruction set ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Are you teasing, Richard?            01/01/70 00:00      
               My point, exactly!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  He is a beginner            01/01/70 00:00      
                     He needs to understand the tools            01/01/70 00:00      
                        When all you have is a hammer            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Does the 8052 meet his needs?            01/01/70 00:00      
   a comment, not a 'bashing'            01/01/70 00:00      
      Probably too detailed?            01/01/70 00:00      
         C#            01/01/70 00:00      
            Hmmmm ... JAVA for 8-bitters?            01/01/70 00:00      
               It exists            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I don't doubt it for a minute!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Windows not (necessarily) required            01/01/70 00:00      
               I stand Corrected            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I wonder how it compares to C++            01/01/70 00:00      
   another update            01/01/70 00:00      
      No            01/01/70 00:00      
         Lucky this time?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Sufficient: probably. Complete: no            01/01/70 00:00      
               it's probably sufficient to say you drive a volvo            01/01/70 00:00      
                  You sure?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Yes, but just name Volvo says it all ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It's probably best not to mention that you drive a Volvo            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Well, I don't ... I drive a Nissan Maxima            01/01/70 00:00      
                        [UK] "Volvo Drivers"            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Have to consider getting the book            01/01/70 00:00      
         Give the guy a break!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Not the issue            01/01/70 00:00      
               It's not quite the same with part numbers            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Not necessarily true, though?            01/01/70 00:00      
      the full name of the chip is at89c51            01/01/70 00:00      
   Is this thread now finished?            01/01/70 00:00      

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