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10/15/11 17:30
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#184215 - That's what I've found!
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Since the mid-80's, when I was finally forced to deal with 'C' on an ongoing basis, I found that most 'C'-coded projects not only lacked quality-control, but also lacked quality. Largely, this was paired with a complete lack of documentation, which is often the case with sloppy work.

I associate this with the stereotypical image of the long-haired (it was unpopular with conservatives), jeans-wearing, Pepsi-drinking software type, saying, "... no-problem ... we'll just <insert ad-hoc fix here> and it's done" ... no requirements analysis, no timing analysis, nothing of any value to subsequent maintainers, and probably no consideration of possible side-effects.

While I've not taken to wearing my hair long, I do wear jeans, and I dislike neckties ... a symbol of that "appearance over substance" culture that I detest. Nonetheless, I see software types taking a sloppy approach, starting to code well before they've done any of the normally required analysis and design work. I believe that much of this results from the fact that 'C' compilers compile code that doesn't run, which gives programmers the false impression they're close to a reasonable solution.

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Ganssle hates C            01/01/70 00:00      
   Wow!!            01/01/70 00:00      
      Should be an active developer to evolve            01/01/70 00:00      
   Better than C?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Just a tool            01/01/70 00:00      
         How about an electric saw?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Electric plane Vs hand plane            01/01/70 00:00      
   In the real world            01/01/70 00:00      
      Why not?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Because            01/01/70 00:00      
            don't blame me, but            01/01/70 00:00      
            All what you said, Jez, is about getting employed...            01/01/70 00:00      
               What nonsense!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Nah, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
               It is about getting work done            01/01/70 00:00      
                  A rather sharp tool            01/01/70 00:00      
                     That's what I've found!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        that's not 'C' only            01/01/70 00:00      
                           But 'C' is famous for that            01/01/70 00:00      
   OK he hates C            01/01/70 00:00      
      he thinks...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Jez - Did you actually read the article by Jack?            01/01/70 00:00      
   What Gansell needs to realise            01/01/70 00:00      
      Yes, but            01/01/70 00:00      
         Still a hammer            01/01/70 00:00      
            the tools and the crap            01/01/70 00:00      
               A bad workman blames his (or her) tools            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Learning to do stuff "properly"            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Sometimes it's not the tools, but the choice of tools.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Or, to put it another way, Inappropriate tools            01/01/70 00:00      
                        or using HLL where ASM is a better choice            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Or choosing the wrong HLL            01/01/70 00:00      
                              That shouldn't surprise anyone            01/01/70 00:00      
                              quoting Ganssle...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           compolete sentence            01/01/70 00:00      
                              It's more than 5% where I sit            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 WOW, that seems a new attitude of yours            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    that doesn't mean that I'll use 'em ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   A Media Man            01/01/70 00:00      

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