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10/07/11 06:55
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#184120 - the tools and the crap
Responding to: ???'s previous message
If you go these days into a tool shop, you can see 20% of utter crap, 20% of good tools, and the rest is crap packed as good tools.

Unfortunately, there's no way telling what the crap is, until you try - price, brand, appearance that all is

Now the crap IS usable for its intended purpose, except that you have to learn how to use it, the extra care it requires, and you have to be prepared that it may fail anytime. It's the "cost of ownership" problem.

Note, that Ganssle among other suggestions calls for "restrictive dialect of the language". Well, other people may call it "best practices" or "coding standards" and it is used already for decades as a remedy for the crappines of C.

JW

List of 39 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Ganssle hates C            01/01/70 00:00      
   Wow!!            01/01/70 00:00      
      Should be an active developer to evolve            01/01/70 00:00      
   Better than C?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Just a tool            01/01/70 00:00      
         How about an electric saw?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Electric plane Vs hand plane            01/01/70 00:00      
   In the real world            01/01/70 00:00      
      Why not?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Because            01/01/70 00:00      
            don't blame me, but            01/01/70 00:00      
            All what you said, Jez, is about getting employed...            01/01/70 00:00      
               What nonsense!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Nah, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
               It is about getting work done            01/01/70 00:00      
                  A rather sharp tool            01/01/70 00:00      
                     That's what I've found!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        that's not 'C' only            01/01/70 00:00      
                           But 'C' is famous for that            01/01/70 00:00      
   OK he hates C            01/01/70 00:00      
      he thinks...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Jez - Did you actually read the article by Jack?            01/01/70 00:00      
   What Gansell needs to realise            01/01/70 00:00      
      Yes, but            01/01/70 00:00      
         Still a hammer            01/01/70 00:00      
            the tools and the crap            01/01/70 00:00      
               A bad workman blames his (or her) tools            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Learning to do stuff "properly"            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Sometimes it's not the tools, but the choice of tools.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Or, to put it another way, Inappropriate tools            01/01/70 00:00      
                        or using HLL where ASM is a better choice            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Or choosing the wrong HLL            01/01/70 00:00      
                              That shouldn't surprise anyone            01/01/70 00:00      
                              quoting Ganssle...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           compolete sentence            01/01/70 00:00      
                              It's more than 5% where I sit            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 WOW, that seems a new attitude of yours            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    that doesn't mean that I'll use 'em ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   A Media Man            01/01/70 00:00      

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