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03/06/11 15:38
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#181448 - Isn't needed in your case probably...
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If you have a large board with common mode noise, i.e. potential differencies on signal ground between separate places on that board and you connect some piece of wire to the signal ground somewhere, then you create an antenna radiating electromagnetic waves. The motor of these electromagnetic waves is the common mode noise on the board. And a common mode filter can reject the radiation to some degree.

Way better is to arrange the cables leaving the board in such a way, that they sit at a place that is quiet in terms of common mode noise. So, put your circuit into a metall enclosure and let all cabels enter and leave the enclosure at only one place. Connect all cables shields to the metall enclosure at this place. Connect the signal ground of circuit and all cable filtering to the metall enclosure at this place. Follow the concept of a radio frequency plane here. By this you minimize common mode noise, the motor of radiation.

If you follow this design practice common mode filtering isn't needed in most cases. Of course, you need state-of-the-art differential filtering at input and output of dc-switcher, formed by appropriate pi-filters! Eventually a common mode ferrite choke like a clamp-on-ferrite can be useful on high speed digital communication cables. But the damping advantage is no more than 10dB usually. But make no mistake, heavy design mistakes cannot be cured by such a clamp-on-ferrite!

Use RS485 drivers for your midi communication that are slew rate limited. This is enormously helpful to enhance EMC!

Kai Klaas


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      a little more info on the application            01/01/70 00:00      
         then this may be simpler            01/01/70 00:00      
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               if you use a transistor for the CC ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  And you could even limit...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Is it worth it?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  This one, e.g....            01/01/70 00:00      
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                        CC source            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Turn the tables...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Pros / Cons            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Professional eqipment = be nice/forgiving to your customers            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Never to old to learn            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       PWM it            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          PWM !            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       max 20V........            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       ignore - double posting - sorry            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Power outage totally different            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Power failure            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 500mA backlight, but what voltage            01/01/70 00:00      
                           A vote for your plan            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Midi switcher            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Midi Sequencer < < Maxi Engineering            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    building a good robust product            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Common Mode filter            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Isn't needed in your case probably...            01/01/70 00:00      

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