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06/17/09 15:36
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#166191 - welec
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Kai Klaas said:
Hi Ap,

with nearly all scopes there can be contact problems due to dirt and oxids after some years, like mentioned here:

http://www.fullnet.com/~tomg/tekclean.htm

Avoid de-oxid chemicals, though, they make the situation even worse, usually. Use only isopropyl alcohol for the contacts.

Another cause of noisy lines on the screen can be common mode noise on protective earth or common mode noise hitting the screen of probe. Give snap ferrites on the mains and probe cable a try, then. Another cure is to use differential probes.

Once we had a problem with extreme jitter in the trigger delay of a Hitachi scope. Very nasty if you don't know that its the scope which brings the jitter...

Kai

Hi Kai , I actually would like to quote this too against noise issues, this one is from welec
http://www.welec.de/english/0...W2012A.htm

"Vertical Accuracy ±0.5% bei 5V/div, 500mV/div, 50mV/div ± 0.5% at 5V/div, 500mV/div, 50mV/div
(keine Eigenstörung, kein Grundrauschen) (no self-interference, no noise)

±5% at 2V/div, 1V/div, 200mV/div ± 5% at 2V/div, 1V/div, 200mV/div
100mV/div (wenig Grundrauschen) 100mV/div (low noise)

±10% at 10mV/div and 20mV/div ± 10% at 10mV/div and 20mV/div
(mit Grundrauschen) (with noise) "

Its on their site and they declare it but tektronix doesnt . There is some discussion going on http://www.edaboard.com/ftopic81445.html .


Regards
-Ap

PS: welec is transparent in their deal ,is 16K memory for DSO too low . Sorry I ask this as I only use CRO .


List of 26 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
DSO            01/01/70 00:00      
   g.            01/01/70 00:00      
   I would'nt            01/01/70 00:00      
   try first, and compare            01/01/70 00:00      
      They have no parallel with Tek but            01/01/70 00:00      
         I don't give a **** to such comparisons            01/01/70 00:00      
            Try a lot instead of just comparing specifications            01/01/70 00:00      
               tektronix            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Contact problems...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     welec            01/01/70 00:00      
                        further insight to welec            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Have you seen this?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Sorry!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I've been using TEK for over 40 years ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               or DIY            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Hard to make a scope            01/01/70 00:00      
                     be careful about your investment ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        PC scopes not easy to use            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I've found computer controls to be less than convenient            01/01/70 00:00      
                           About PC scopes difficulty            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Too great difference between hw and sw scopes            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 are there any software scopes ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Maybe there are - but may even be irrelevant            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Wrong link            01/01/70 00:00      
                  But how would you test & calibrate it?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Why not??            01/01/70 00:00      

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