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09/04/07 16:07
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#143999 - Lookup tables are good for lots of stuff
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Joseph said:
If memory were still priced at a premium, and a look up table was just prohibitive or downright not possible, you could still accomplish the task by doing the calculations each time.

This sentence and a couple of other comments in this thread seem to make an assumption that I think a lot of people make, namely that the lookup table is being used to evaluate some slow-to-calculate function by grabbing precomputed values from the table. If you make that assumption, Joe has a good point: you can do the calculations without the lookup table, but you can't have the lookup table without doing the calculations at least once so you know what to put in the table.

That's all fine, except that lookup tables have other uses besides the textbook one that everybody talks about. The state table in this example is a lookup table, and not one that could be replaced by some sort of calculation. As another example, consider some sort of invoicing system, where the customer gets a discount based on his volume, with totally arbitrary price breaks. Such a thing would be a snap to implement with a table containing the discount schedule, but probably impossible to calculate.

Bottom line: Don't limit your thinking about lookup tables to the classic case of, "Hey, let's precompute the sine function so we don't have to calculate it a runtime." They're (perhaps more) useful in lots of other situations as well.

-- Russ


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weekend survey            01/01/70 00:00      
   1. programming through the whole night            01/01/70 00:00      
   two things at once            01/01/70 00:00      
      not entirely correct            01/01/70 00:00      
   I'm afraid, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
      stealing codes?            01/01/70 00:00      
         A lesson learned by many            01/01/70 00:00      
         They are way faster...            01/01/70 00:00      
            sounds like a bitter experience            01/01/70 00:00      
   3)Math            01/01/70 00:00      
      0) Math            01/01/70 00:00      
   I have to agree with Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
   For hardware design(VHDL)            01/01/70 00:00      
      then, throw out the crap            01/01/70 00:00      
   Math, experience, tools and code libraries            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why?            01/01/70 00:00      
      tradeoffs            01/01/70 00:00      
         Well said, but not what I asked            01/01/70 00:00      
            different question            01/01/70 00:00      
               technique v tool            01/01/70 00:00      
      two reasons            01/01/70 00:00      
         valuation            01/01/70 00:00      
            that's a given, but            01/01/70 00:00      
            Lookup tables are good for lots of stuff            01/01/70 00:00      
   Good topic!            01/01/70 00:00      
      common tool, but            01/01/70 00:00      
         Function Pointers on the 8051            01/01/70 00:00      
            table-driven whatever and function pointers            01/01/70 00:00      
               reduce a task to its basic elements            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Good idea, bad example            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I didn't really want to use 805x instructions            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I can\'t find my old, (t)rusty 65C02 cheatsheet...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Only the Rockwell version had it            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Oh, mea culpa...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        A very simple example would be helpful            01/01/70 00:00      
                           let\\\'s start at your end            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Here's what's confusing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 FAQ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Yes, you're quite right ... ... Mea culpa            01/01/70 00:00      
                  inconsistent instruction set            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I ask you, seriously, to inform us            01/01/70 00:00      
                        a few things            01/01/70 00:00      
                           so much \'fun\' with ajmp            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I give up            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 the answer            01/01/70 00:00      
                           My intuition            01/01/70 00:00      
                              mhm            01/01/70 00:00      
      to russ            01/01/70 00:00      
         to erik            01/01/70 00:00      
            to Russ            01/01/70 00:00      
               to Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
               To Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
                  WOW, a companion CD            01/01/70 00:00      
   the bad ideas            01/01/70 00:00      
      Anachronism?            01/01/70 00:00      
         he's certainly not a HW guy...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Hardware protection slated            01/01/70 00:00      
         this is an academic view...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Proving correctness            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why state machine / lookup tables?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Not to disagree ... but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         A good reference            01/01/70 00:00      

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