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09/03/07 09:44
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 		 #143934 - he's certainly not a HW guy...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
... and for somebody working exclusively with the "real computers" for 40 years, and is retired for another 7 or so, the changover happened not so far in time...

Btw. bipolar _transistors_ were still dominating in speed some 15 years ago (compared to _silicon_ MOSFETs); the "only" problem was the high process complexity (too many processing steps), low density of integration and high power consumption. For the "small computers", CMOS was a must even deep in the 70s (you can't build a _micro_processor from bipolars). For the "real computers", bipolars were still in use throughout the 80s.

JW


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TopicAuthorDate
weekend survey            01/01/70 00:00      
   1. programming through the whole night            01/01/70 00:00      
   two things at once            01/01/70 00:00      
      not entirely correct            01/01/70 00:00      
   I'm afraid, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
      stealing codes?            01/01/70 00:00      
         A lesson learned by many            01/01/70 00:00      
         They are way faster...            01/01/70 00:00      
            sounds like a bitter experience            01/01/70 00:00      
   3)Math            01/01/70 00:00      
      0) Math            01/01/70 00:00      
   I have to agree with Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
   For hardware design(VHDL)            01/01/70 00:00      
      then, throw out the crap            01/01/70 00:00      
   Math, experience, tools and code libraries            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why?            01/01/70 00:00      
      tradeoffs            01/01/70 00:00      
         Well said, but not what I asked            01/01/70 00:00      
            different question            01/01/70 00:00      
               technique v tool            01/01/70 00:00      
      two reasons            01/01/70 00:00      
         valuation            01/01/70 00:00      
            that's a given, but            01/01/70 00:00      
            Lookup tables are good for lots of stuff            01/01/70 00:00      
   Good topic!            01/01/70 00:00      
      common tool, but            01/01/70 00:00      
         Function Pointers on the 8051            01/01/70 00:00      
            table-driven whatever and function pointers            01/01/70 00:00      
               reduce a task to its basic elements            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Good idea, bad example            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I didn't really want to use 805x instructions            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I can\'t find my old, (t)rusty 65C02 cheatsheet...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Only the Rockwell version had it            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Oh, mea culpa...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        A very simple example would be helpful            01/01/70 00:00      
                           let\\\'s start at your end            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Here's what's confusing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 FAQ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Yes, you're quite right ... ... Mea culpa            01/01/70 00:00      
                  inconsistent instruction set            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I ask you, seriously, to inform us            01/01/70 00:00      
                        a few things            01/01/70 00:00      
                           so much \'fun\' with ajmp            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I give up            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 the answer            01/01/70 00:00      
                           My intuition            01/01/70 00:00      
                              mhm            01/01/70 00:00      
      to russ            01/01/70 00:00      
         to erik            01/01/70 00:00      
            to Russ            01/01/70 00:00      
               to Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
               To Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
                  WOW, a companion CD            01/01/70 00:00      
   the bad ideas            01/01/70 00:00      
      Anachronism?            01/01/70 00:00      
         he's certainly not a HW guy...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Hardware protection slated            01/01/70 00:00      
         this is an academic view...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Proving correctness            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why state machine / lookup tables?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Not to disagree ... but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         A good reference            01/01/70 00:00      

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