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10/01/06 15:22
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#125514 - No suited quartz
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Abhishek said:
Trying to design circuit for the same. What is you suggestion a square wave generator with a series of filters. i.e. your circuit modified for this what you already suggested in Prahlads thread of precision Sinne wave generator?

Well, this generator used the CD4060, which is a binary counter. Unfortunately, there's no standard quartz I know which yields exactly 440Hz, if this is what you need.

Why not following the approach discussed here

http://www.8052.com/forum/read.phtml?id=125098

but by using a 12MHz quartz?

Take note: If you want to produce the whole series of frequencies (G,D,A and E), then the 11.0592MHz quartz is better suited, because the deviations within the whole set, means between the frequencies, are minimal then.

I should add, that 440Hz is not always taken as the tuning reference. Many conductors let the instruments tune some Hz higher than 440Hz and let the music play a bit faster, to make it appear a bit "fresher". But I don't like that at all. A bad example is the "Brandenburgische Konzerte" by Johann Sebastian Bach, which sound terrible with this modification. The only record I can hear without being in pain is from the 1960ies.
Also, playing the concerts much faster cannot be right, just because the players of instruments at that time couldn't play as well as we can today. Also, the instruments weren't as good as today. So, I'm convinced, that it's an anachronism to mistune the instruments and play the concerts faster.

Kai

List of 31 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Auto Violin Tuner            01/01/70 00:00      
   Tuner            01/01/70 00:00      
      You basically need a phase locked loop            01/01/70 00:00      
   use your ears?            01/01/70 00:00      
      you are right            01/01/70 00:00      
         the bane of much learning            01/01/70 00:00      
   suggested improvement            01/01/70 00:00      
      improved inprovement            01/01/70 00:00      
         Corrected            01/01/70 00:00      
   Drop the violin.. and git ya a fiddle!            01/01/70 00:00      
      how did I guess that came from the state where            01/01/70 00:00      
      Musician Joke            01/01/70 00:00      
   This is normally done by the ears            01/01/70 00:00      
      depends on what you really want ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Now that *is* clever!            01/01/70 00:00      
            That's a good one !!!            01/01/70 00:00      
            somehow, Andy I got a mental picture of            01/01/70 00:00      
               Well, you do have to remove the BS first            01/01/70 00:00      
      440 Hz source            01/01/70 00:00      
         No suited quartz            01/01/70 00:00      
            I'd recommend a frequency synthesizer            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, that's standardly used in such an application            01/01/70 00:00      
                  would that be a problem?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Jitter?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        years ago ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   strobe tuner!            01/01/70 00:00      
      Costly!            01/01/70 00:00      
   How about generating the tones?            01/01/70 00:00      
      you'll want to filter the output            01/01/70 00:00      
         Are they unwanted?            01/01/70 00:00      
            the string does produce harmonics            01/01/70 00:00      

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