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09/13/06 15:23
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#124209 - the worse 485 wiring
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Erik Malund said:
I even have seen "wiring RS485 in a star configuration" OUCH!!.

Despite of how many notes we wrote on RS485 wiring and in how big and bold letters it is written there "NO STAR", and "NO ETHERNET WIRING", the typical installation situation is, "we had a company who pre-wired the premise for us" and granted there sits the structured ethernet cabling, under the plaster on the wall or whatever so we can't simply change it.
Erik Malund said:
A typical idiocy (this from the wikipedia) "Ideally, the two ends of the cable will have a termination resistor"

Huh, how true! Again, no matter how much paper and ink (sorry toner) is spent on this and how many times I and my colleagues repeat to those who install and service that the terminator is a must (it's just putting in the jumper), invariably there are two states: either a jumper is present on each node, or nowhere, depending on how the assembly house set it...

So, we run max. 19200, standard load, all the protection available, and very very defensive protocol and coding. Most of the time, it works satisfactory.

Now, this belongs to the "worst 485 cabling and practice" thread and not this one, I know...

Jan Waclawek

PS: Erik, please don't argue, please do accept that I simply have no influence on the idi... sorry personnel who actually install this, except I put it into the documentation to back my..self.


List of 24 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
RS485 and DE, \RE            01/01/70 00:00      
   not pantyhose            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
         stick to the National and B&B stuff            01/01/70 00:00      
            the worse 485 wiring            01/01/70 00:00      
               automatic termination is the solution            01/01/70 00:00      
                  what\'s that?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     its simple            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Cool!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        hmmm            01/01/70 00:00      
                           actually very simple            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I am still none the wiser            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 chain            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    I've got it.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 It works, you work out the details            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    maybe not biasing A&B...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       then use a high enough voltage            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    biassing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       answers            01/01/70 00:00      
                              if you supply via cable...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Transceiver with switchable termination            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    thanks for the tip!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    great.Oliver, just this            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 it would, but think this through            01/01/70 00:00      

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