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12/29/05 16:07
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#106169 - Changes nothing
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Erik said:
then add a footnote "this assumes ideal behaviour of the components"

It still doesn't work, even with ideal components. Grounding of input B will still result in a turn-on of transistor, at least partially!
Also, what a stupid assumption, that inputs can actually be grounded, means connected to exactly 0V. If this circuit is driven by another DTL-modul, then the voltage drop across a turned-on collector emitter junction must be taken into consideration, which can be up to 0.4V, as we know from TTL. So, even with low ohmic germanium or Schottky diodes, this circuit will not work!

Where is the sense to let students perform a test, which is totally absurd? Why not giving them a working DTL-circuit?
So, either the test maker is stupid, or sadistic. I had enough of these idiots in my life...

The best remedy would be to ask the supervisor, whether germanium diodes can be assumed, though. Maybe he can clear the situation then. Give it a try, before you loose everything...

Kai


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TopicAuthorDate
CET Exam Chaper 9 Questions            01/01/70 00:00      
   Answers            01/01/70 00:00      
      Answers provide later by myself.            01/01/70 00:00      
         See Q5            01/01/70 00:00      
         Vintage?????            01/01/70 00:00      
            No signs of senility            01/01/70 00:00      
               Ah, well            01/01/70 00:00      
                  An achievement            01/01/70 00:00      
   Q3            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes            01/01/70 00:00      
      Depends            01/01/70 00:00      
         If Q3 did not have a clear answer, neith            01/01/70 00:00      
         What a messy circuit...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Tough            01/01/70 00:00      
            assume the stupidity of the test maker            01/01/70 00:00      
               Changes nothing            01/01/70 00:00      
                  germanium diodes silicon transistors or            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Nice link!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I googled            01/01/70 00:00      
            Germanium and Silicon            01/01/70 00:00      
               in my first job the ICs were PCBs using            01/01/70 00:00      
                  DTL            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Appeal ?            01/01/70 00:00      
               cet test            01/01/70 00:00      
               From a contemporary source...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Top Marks            01/01/70 00:00      
                     To Charles!            01/01/70 00:00      
   ANSWERS            01/01/70 00:00      
      Conclusion            01/01/70 00:00      
         Germanium diodes are            01/01/70 00:00      
            silly concept            01/01/70 00:00      
               yes            01/01/70 00:00      

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