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08/30/09 10:50
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#168615 - Creating new sine wave at different frequency
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Kiran V. Sutar said:
Mains Filters -> AC-to-DC bridge -> Controller with Display/Keyboard/Mem/etc. -> DC-to-AC Inverter with filters.

Note that the AC-to-DC part is because the controller card will create new AC of a different frequency, to allow the motor to be driven at a different speed. The intention is to have to motor running at a speed very close to the AC frequency.

If you instead use triacs and either throw away some halv-periods or a percentage of the initial part of each half-period, the motor will no longer be powered by a sine wave. That is not an operating mode the motor is designed for.

Another thing is that the motor is optimized for a specific frequency. The motor doesn't just have a DC resistance. It also has an inductance, and the iron in it has a limited capacity to store magnetic energy. If you reduce the frequency it will run slower. But each half-period will have more time to charge magnetic energy. So you have to be prepared to reduce the amplitude of the signal at the same time as you are reducing the frequency. This is similar to transformers in DC-DC converters. These transformers are tiny compared to a transformer for 50/60Hz, because at a switching frequency of 100kHz, the transformer don't have to be able to store so much magnetic energy. It "pumps" less energy each period, but instead do it more often.

List of 29 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
AC Motor question            01/01/70 00:00      
   with these questions            01/01/70 00:00      
   More questions            01/01/70 00:00      
      not neccessarily            01/01/70 00:00      
         May be, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
            inverters have a potentiometer input            01/01/70 00:00      
   Replies to Erik and Daniel            01/01/70 00:00      
      go ahead and then cost it            01/01/70 00:00      
         Thanks Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
   Dear Suttar            01/01/70 00:00      
      STAY AWAY            01/01/70 00:00      
         It doesn't have to be so bad if you switch at zero crossing            01/01/70 00:00      
            and give tyhe AC motor every other cycle ????            01/01/70 00:00      
               No ... just turn it on and off at zero crossing            01/01/70 00:00      
                  it is an AC motor, details, details, detalis            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Horrible motor control            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Who said anything about removing cycles?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        on and off at zero crossing....            01/01/70 00:00      
                           and if you cut only half cycles ....            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Nope ... it just happens at power-on and power-off            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 that is NOT what this thread is about            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Only when you turn the motor on or off            01/01/70 00:00      
         To Erik,            01/01/70 00:00      
            Slip            01/01/70 00:00      
               "inverter certified" motors ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Creating new sine wave at different frequency            01/01/70 00:00      
               Now I know why...            01/01/70 00:00      
            no, the frequency generated by the inverter            01/01/70 00:00      
      Reply to Vu Nhu Khanh            01/01/70 00:00      

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