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01/29/09 07:47
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Chico Magalhães said:
Thanks for your answer Richard.

I agree with everything you say, but still appearing harder than I can do.

About the ruler, which type of sensor I could use to see so small bars?

A moderately sensitive phototransistor should do the job. Of course you will have to bias it close to its threshold and amplify the result. It's also a good idea to have a pretty strong light source. Most phototransistors respond best to infrared (750-910 nm is a common range, IIRC). I don't know how you would configure a voice-coil mechanism, or even what sort of mechanism you have in mind. I have some old voice-coils somewhere that weigh quite a bit (2 or 3 kg) and require a large current to drive them. OTOH, the head-stack actuator from a laptop (2-1/2 inch) drive would not be very heavy. If both your photodiode (source) and your phototransistor were attached to "see" through the film I mentioned, you would not have to make a slit, per-se, as there are actual assemblies that you can obtain that have both the transmitter and receiver in the assembly and are intended for use in such "choppers." All you'd have to do in such a case is to devise a circuit that would correctly interpret the signal at the sensor and drive the counter in your MCU. That would tell you where you are.

Again, you are right, I did given little information. Its because I don't have much requirements, I just want to create a laser XY Scanner using old HDD coils, I'm not caring very much for ultra high speed or precision, if I can draw something on a wall would be ok (at least by now).

It would appear that you intend to drive the laser output in both horizontal and vertical planes. This becomes both more complex and more massive. Each voice-coil actuator, e.g. the head stack assembly from a fixed disk, would have to carry a mirror, one to effect the vertical deflection and one to effect the horizontal.

Thanks a lot for remembering about the stepper motor =D
It worked well for the intent of that project, which was to be controlled by midi notes.
But is a little slow, and I having trouble for receive midi data from a Yamaha keyboard.
here a youtube video of it working http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbRyCPqETCE

Stepper motor for this application will have very very low resolution.


It's a good thing to remember that the maximal step rate for those older floppy disk drives was typically 3 ms per step. Now, with careful velocity profiling, one could get longer excursions to operate with much shorter times per step, but the motors are often not that well specified that one can just proceed to do that.

If you've ever looked at the assembly commonly used in retail stores to scan bar codes, you're aware that it's possible to use a constant-velocity motor spinning a multi-faceted mirror and simply modulate the laser light on and off. Then you'd probably only need one voice-coil and mirror, and only a fast-spinning motor with a multi-faceted mirror to draw in the same way that a CRT draws images using a raster imaging scheme. In fact, you could use two such mirrors, one sweeping in the vertical direction, slowly, and one sweeping in the horizontal, much more quickly. Then all you have to do is to create a circuit that modulates the laser on and off based on the raster image. I haven't thought about this much, but it would appear that it's possible. You just need one color, so that's one bit plane, and if you scan at typical TV rates, you should be able to handle it, provided you have the means to gate your laser on and off at a frequency greater than 10-12 MHz. That would enable you to put pictures or text on the wall if you wish. You could, of course simply limit your display to various sorts of vectors if that's what you want.

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Closed loop for HDD head coil help            01/01/70 00:00      
   Maybe it will work ... or maybe not.            01/01/70 00:00      
      Gradient transparency + led + photo-diode?            01/01/70 00:00      
         it will not be easy            01/01/70 00:00      
            more info            01/01/70 00:00      
               It's not as easy as one might think            01/01/70 00:00      
                  harder than I thought            01/01/70 00:00      
                     There are ways ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        speed is essential when drawing            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Yes, faster is better in this case            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Relativity            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 That would likely work            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Flexible Thinking - Flexible Arm            01/01/70 00:00      

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