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02/27/08 08:03
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#151511 - Couldn\'t you do that in another way
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Consider, for example, the way in which "ONCE" mode is done.

Knowing the state of nPSEN doesn't help much, but I suspect it would be necessary in order to defeat one or another method of cracking the MCU. Failing to provide nPSEN would certainly not HELP an attacker.

The old Motorola single-chippers had an externally visible bus that provided access to what's inside, despite the fact they couldn't access external resources at all, thereby allowing one to observe when the internal bus went tristate, which enabled one to "jam" instructions into the MCU.

One did have to know what, basically, happens inside the MCU, but once that was learned, cracking 'em was not impossible. In fact, one could jam instructions that loaded a program into internal RAM and then executed it, dumping the code via a port. MOT apparently built their MCU's as though they were on a PCB.

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List of 22 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Obtaining maximum code security            01/01/70 00:00      
   Worth it ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Protection with Patents            01/01/70 00:00      
   the value... again...            01/01/70 00:00      
      "OCR"ing a Design            01/01/70 00:00      
   It's a brave man            01/01/70 00:00      
      Specialist secure micros            01/01/70 00:00      
         this is a different form of security            01/01/70 00:00      
         Huge NREs?            01/01/70 00:00      
            What if you don't bond out nPSEN?            01/01/70 00:00      
               why not drop !EA            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Don't Drop !EA!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Couldn\'t you do that in another way            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Eliminating /EA            01/01/70 00:00      
               The value of PSEN            01/01/70 00:00      
            not only...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Brute-force copying            01/01/70 00:00      
                  well, maybe...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Erase on tamper detect            01/01/70 00:00      
   Make the chip hard to access            01/01/70 00:00      
      It's quite impractical...            01/01/70 00:00      
   few thousand dollars ... Not at all            01/01/70 00:00      

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