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02/26/08 16:50
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#151491 - The value of PSEN
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Richard Erlacher said:
Perhaps all it needs is to be able to disconnect the nPSEN signal from the pin, electronically, once the internal FLASH is programmed.

Mightn't that be enough?


In some (most? all?) processors, /PSEN is suppressed during internal operation. And some have a bit to also suppress ALE for EMI considerations. I don't see how knowing the state of /PSEN or ALE would help me crack a processor.

I can always know the processors state in the instruction cycle by counting clocks from the release of reset.

And its presence or absence wouldn't matter if I had opened the part to read the flash.


List of 22 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Obtaining maximum code security            01/01/70 00:00      
   Worth it ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Protection with Patents            01/01/70 00:00      
   the value... again...            01/01/70 00:00      
      "OCR"ing a Design            01/01/70 00:00      
   It's a brave man            01/01/70 00:00      
      Specialist secure micros            01/01/70 00:00      
         this is a different form of security            01/01/70 00:00      
         Huge NREs?            01/01/70 00:00      
            What if you don't bond out nPSEN?            01/01/70 00:00      
               why not drop !EA            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Don't Drop !EA!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Couldn\'t you do that in another way            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Eliminating /EA            01/01/70 00:00      
               The value of PSEN            01/01/70 00:00      
            not only...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Brute-force copying            01/01/70 00:00      
                  well, maybe...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Erase on tamper detect            01/01/70 00:00      
   Make the chip hard to access            01/01/70 00:00      
      It's quite impractical...            01/01/70 00:00      
   few thousand dollars ... Not at all            01/01/70 00:00      

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