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08/11/07 09:46
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#143095 - ... or they
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Douglas R. Hofstadter said:
Someone who, like me, is trying to eliminate gender-laden pronouns from their speech altogether can try to rely on the word "they", but they will find themself in quite a pickle as soon as they try to use any reflexive verbal construction such as "the writer will paint themselves into a corner", and what's worse is that no matter how hard this person tries, they'll find that they can't extricate themselves gracefully, and consequently he or she will just flail around, making his or her sentence so awkward that s/he wis/hes s/he had never become concious of these issues of sexism. Obviously, using "they" just carries you from the frying pan into the fire, as you have merely exchanged a male-female ambiguity for a singular-plural ambiguity. The only advantage to this ploy is, I suppose, that there is/are, to my knowledge, no group(s) actively struggling for equality between singular and plural.

-- from Metamagical Themas: Questing for the Essence of Mind And Pattern, a collection of Hofstadter's columns that first ran in Scientific American, I think in the early 80s.


List of 24 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
forum enhancement request            01/01/70 00:00      
   The "a" in Teja tells it            01/01/70 00:00      
      Maybe            01/01/70 00:00      
         in slavic languages this works, too            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes, like "Supernova"...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Ambiguous names            01/01/70 00:00      
            tennist            01/01/70 00:00      
               Thanks, Andy.            01/01/70 00:00      
      Not really            01/01/70 00:00      
         more and less technical?            01/01/70 00:00      
         re: not really            01/01/70 00:00      
         he or she            01/01/70 00:00      
            hungarian            01/01/70 00:00      
            ... or they            01/01/70 00:00      
            Gender specifics            01/01/70 00:00      
            Latin            01/01/70 00:00      
               Latin            01/01/70 00:00      
         Sexism?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Another one:            01/01/70 00:00      
      Good idea, Neil! :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
      re: Another one            01/01/70 00:00      
   Gender profile            01/01/70 00:00      
      I think Craig's on my wavelength            01/01/70 00:00      
         You missed the point entirely            01/01/70 00:00      

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