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06/14/12 00:26
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#187700 - Hardly a valid claim
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik Malund said:
Download w/o any "extra devices' is practically standard today (except in 'historical devices)


?? - That claim is only true if your PC happens to have 5V RS232 &| 5V SPI port, and I've yet to see a consumer model that does ;)
( certainly, a long way from 'practically standard today' )

So you certainly do need an 'extra device', in the form of a RS232 level converter and/or a USB-5V232/SPI, to download to 99% of 8051 controllers.

It is possible, with an 8051 with USB and an included Boot/DFU - but we've already covered, they are very rare.

USB-On-Chip is moving to close to 'free', but the main thrust is in 32 bit cores.

Examples are the new Freescale Kinetis which claims $1.58/10K for a USB/QFN32, or the xMega USB models showing @ $1.59/K.




List of 13 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Need a cheaper 8051 Trainer Kit.            01/01/70 00:00      
   cheap and pretty cheap options            01/01/70 00:00      
   Cheaper than what?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Many choices - debug not mentioned ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      actually they are with SILabs            01/01/70 00:00      
         Two chip solutions do not count            01/01/70 00:00      
            WHAT CHIP?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Silabs F328 ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  yes, it is an "unencapsulated dongle"            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It is only a matter of time...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I care more about a debugger            01/01/70 00:00      
                            Hardly a valid claim            01/01/70 00:00      
                              then show me the mon.. eh debugging            01/01/70 00:00      

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