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04/19/10 20:00
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#175133 - Hobbyist asking for professionals to solve noise problems
hello All

I am happy to see a forum on 8052 where decent people share knowledge with all
i am basically a hobbyist my primary job is VLSI physical design, but I have a strong interest towards
Electronic gadgets, here i am discussing one circuit drawn by me and need your comments on where the circuit
is lagging or what can be the problems as i have already done the proto typing the circuit is functional but still not guaranteed to face every worst condition From last few days i have been struggling with various noise problems and some how now feels to get a second opinion from you all intelligent people so as to learn from your views/experiences.

Brief about the machine
The machine is an exposure controller block which takes few parameters from user viz. time of exposure and voltage
to provide after the above parameters are added the machine operates and provide a fix energy to connected load (inductive)

The whole schematic consist of three sheets I’ll discuss each in brief
Sheet 1
Consist of basic microcontroller circuit I have used a 4X4 keypad on P1.the connector is 12 inch long ribbon wire cable few i/p o/p connections on P0,LCD on P2
P3 for interrupt and I2c
My problems :
1. I faced false triggering actions on i/ps so I put a 0.1uF cap from each pin to gnd is it correct way of doing things my keypad is scanned after every 5mS through Timer 1
2. please observe the o/p for SSR as this is positive logic(which I learnt is not good with 89s52, reset problem ) so I intend to change this but I also have a problem around this I have seen in very noisy environment like welding sets and others motors switching my control for pin P0_3 is lost I need to have the controller pin AND’ed with a user i/p switch see pinP0_4 the ideal case should be the micon setting the pulse width but sometimes the micon just forgot to switch off the signal the software implementation is like this

...insert code here
 

volatile signed short count =0 ; //value range 0-700
void timer1_ISR (void) interrupt 3 using 3
{
TL1 = 0xff ;
TH1 = 0xb7 ;
count--;
if(count <= 0) TR1 = 0;
}

Main{

Some code
if(preState != state) // entry condition
TR0 = 0;// disable keypad
IE = 0x88;// enable only timer1 interrupt

TH1 = 0xb7 ; //load values for 20 mS count
TL1 = 0xff ;

count = timer_LUT[switch][timePos-1]; //load how many 20 mS cycles
gotoxy(4,1);
while(INPUT); // wait for key press
lcdScreen(5); // display screen
OUTPUT = 1; //activate ssr
TR1 = 1; // run timer
while((TR1) && (!INPUT));// either tr1 expires or user release key
OUTPUT = 0; // SSR off
lcdScreen(6);// display screen done
TR0 = 1; //enable keypad
IE= 0x83;// enable keypad interrupt
}


...insert code here
 

Please suggest what could be wrong as the problem is quite repetitive in noisy environment

Sheet2
Basically consist of serial to parallel shift registers CD 4094 which I used to make a selection of 1 out of 16 tapings in a transformer the cd4094 drive uln 2803 which further drives relay connected as hierarchical decoders I used relay to switch as I was not very comfortable with using TRIACS any suggestion for improvement are welcome

The other stuff is PCF 85 74 just that I needed few more pins as I was out in controller used i2c port expander was an additional i/p after the first proto more or less the logic in this sheet works fine but few doubts
Should I connect the micon pin to shift register directly or need to use and r c network to avoid any noise ? in idle case when the registers are done the shifting I write zero’s the i/ps CLK,STROBE and DATA is it OK?


Sheet 3 shows the hierarchical decoding for realizing a 16:1 selector switch I used relays but I am open for suggestions


So I think quiet a long post with so many expectations please respond when time allows as sincerely wish to know the opinion of professionals and also need the help to develop the solution more Robust ,Any further details needed can be provided.

Best regards
Manish jain







List of 25 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Hobbyist asking for professionals to solve noise problems            01/01/70 00:00      
   images on web upload            01/01/70 00:00      
   sounds like missing debounce            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes no software debounce            01/01/70 00:00      
         Sample superloop            01/01/70 00:00      
   Hhm, many problems to solve...            01/01/70 00:00      
      can only post after 7pm india            01/01/70 00:00      
      detailed reply with images link            01/01/70 00:00      
         Fast and low voltage drop            01/01/70 00:00      
            still have some doubts            01/01/70 00:00      
               ?? any replies            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Think about which polarity you want the diode to conduct            01/01/70 00:00      
                     it should be case2            01/01/70 00:00      
                        just a question            01/01/70 00:00      
                           adding it now            01/01/70 00:00      
                              software debounce done :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 if you do not need "wake up" on a keypress ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    got it            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       you don't, so what            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Thanks for pseudo            01/01/70 00:00      
         Two major mistakes...            01/01/70 00:00      
            points taken,my understandings            01/01/70 00:00      
               Design for an industrial environment!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  the oft missed point            01/01/70 00:00      
                     thanks for feedbacks            01/01/70 00:00      

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