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04/08/13 16:59
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#189635 - How do they do so?
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Hi Oliver,

I'm not familiar with PCIe. How do they control impedance across the edge connectors, and how closely do they match impedance? I'm basing my effort on a paper I read many years ago that reported using grounded vias placed around signal vias to control impedance. The surrounding gnd'd vias supposedly act as sort of orthogonal gnd planes allowing a path for return current.

If you've ever looked at the old parallel connectors (e.g. printer ribbon cables), they used a technique wherein they alternated signal lines next to gnd lines. They said it was for "shielding," but I suspect it was a form of (perhaps fortuitous) impedance control. I'm trying a similar arrangement wherein the entire row of the edge connector contacts are gnd'd. This way, each signal will enter and pass through the connector adjacent to a pseudo-backplane return path.

Rather than just testing to see if it works, I want to measure the realized impedance. I also want to look at the effect of the stubs left by the thru-hole pins. Finally, since I can't really vary the impedance of this geometry (beyond possibly playing with the stub length of the pins), if I can measure it I might be able to adjust the traces to match the impedance, or at least get them close enough to work.

Joe

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Measuring trace impedance with a TDR?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Maybe there's help here ...             01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks. Hardware/model specific            01/01/70 00:00      
         Beauty contest            01/01/70 00:00      
            Growing your own            01/01/70 00:00      
               What information do you want to extract?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  desired information            01/01/70 00:00      
                     "pre-loved"            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Pre "loved"            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Resolution            01/01/70 00:00      
                           ???            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Plenty, I'm sure, but ...             01/01/70 00:00      
                              cost            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Though this is a large and cumbersome instrument ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Better than standard solutions?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        How do they do so?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Magic?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           signal integrity            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Exactly            01/01/70 00:00      

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