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09/14/11 18:16
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#183760 - You need side-by-side comparison or instruments for 10%
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Erik Malund said:
that, of course can not be considered an absolute 'measurement' but I did not percieve ANY lack of brightness in the old ones.

From what I can remember, I have never seen one single VFD that have managed to keep the intensity if that VFD have been used in equipment where not all segments are normally used (giving me a way to verify intensity loss without test equipment).

My microwave - selecting "calibrate" lights up new symbols way stronger than the digits showing the current time.
Same with amplifier, VCR, CD player, DVD player, ...
I have quite a number of equipment with VFD, and they all suffer from uneven segment intensities based on number of hours/day the different segments have been lit.

A 10% intensity loss is just about nothing to our eyes, since our eyes have very large gradation capability without changing pupil size of chemically changing the sensitivity of the eye. But while our eyes are very good at relative comparisons, we are truly lousy at absolute measurements. That is also why we can adapt and see "white" over a quite varying light temperature. So a 10% degradation is huge, when seeing two units besides each other, but practically nothing when seen alone. It spans too little of our dynamic range.

But of course VFD aren't alone with loss of intensity.

I have LED matrix panels that have been in use for 15-20 years, and where the top/buttom lines of LED are way stronger.

TFT panels with CCFL backlight isn't so easy to show ageing on, since they have 100% of the panel lit continuously, making the loss of intensity uniform. But very strong display panels for use in shopping centers etc do have replaceable backlighting just to allow the TFT panel to be used for more years than the backlighting. This obviously way improved with newer panels with LED backlighting.

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LCD for 3V system            01/01/70 00:00      
   digikey            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
         mouser            01/01/70 00:00      
         re digikey            01/01/70 00:00      
          it's a pain to buy through them in the UK            01/01/70 00:00      
            VAT            01/01/70 00:00      
               VAT            01/01/70 00:00      
                  VAT            01/01/70 00:00      
   This any good?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Different results???            01/01/70 00:00      
         Try...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Comes up with 14 results for me            01/01/70 00:00      
   5V LCD on 3V System            01/01/70 00:00      
      Let me add.....            01/01/70 00:00      
         if it's a hobby project...            01/01/70 00:00      
      fine, if you do not            01/01/70 00:00      
         For Software Controlled Strobing...            01/01/70 00:00      
      No 5V rail            01/01/70 00:00      
      No 5V rail            01/01/70 00:00      
         I do not know if ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Wonderful            01/01/70 00:00      
               how about this            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Slow but huge matrix display?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Infernoptix            01/01/70 00:00      
                        That looks fun!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Battery powered, not even a backlight            01/01/70 00:00      
               have they got the lifetime reasonable by now            01/01/70 00:00      
                  You can do way better than that.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Big improvement            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Per, can we have a link to a datasheet, please            01/01/70 00:00      
                           What's 'a typical lifetime'            01/01/70 00:00      
                              grabbing an example            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 But this all settles back to ....            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 All depends on needs            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    not my experience            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Side by Side            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          observations            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             You need side-by-side comparison or instruments for 10%            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                I think I got it            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Did you compare used/unused segments?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Intensity loss depends on designed 100% intensity            01/01/70 00:00      

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