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01/17/10 17:40
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#172519 - I wouldn't do that...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Ap said:
I guess 10%-20% more noise than direct interface ?.Not that bad ,how about chopping this down with active filters?


70mV signal and 20V common mode voltage demands the use of a very very precise differential amplifier, not showing any temp and long term drift of common mode rejection. With 1% toleranced voltage dividers about 40dB common mode rejection is the best you can achieve, resulting in about 200mV common mode noise at the input of ADC!

Also, if the transducer isn't symmetrically working, the source impedances of signal and reference voltage of transducer will differ. Then, the differential amplifier cannot work symmetrically and the comon mode rejection will heavily suffer. In such designs the common mode rejection isn't better than 20...30dB usually.

Filtering will only help, if the signal bandwidth is way below mains frequency (50/60Hz).

So, I wouldn't recommend the differential amplifier solution.

Another option is to use a IL300, to provide a "true" galvanic isolation of analog signals. Or you could build a simple delta sigma modulator and use a fast opto-coupler (6N137, PC410) to transmit the digital pulse train. The easiest way to achieve isolation, though, would be using a transducer which already provides a digital output.

Kai Klaas

List of 21 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Isolating xducer            01/01/70 00:00      
   not even a way            01/01/70 00:00      
      noise            01/01/70 00:00      
         I wouldn't do that...            01/01/70 00:00      
            agree            01/01/70 00:00      
               when within specified range!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
               why 8V or 20V            01/01/70 00:00      
                  no specs violated            01/01/70 00:00      
                     that is TOTALLY irrelevant            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Jumping to conclusions            01/01/70 00:00      
                           AC modulating the bridge excitation voltage?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              modulating the excitation            01/01/70 00:00      
                     make it simple at start            01/01/70 00:00      
                        making it            01/01/70 00:00      
                           o, i see...            01/01/70 00:00      
         from my experience with loadcells ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   what is exactly "xducer" ?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Offsetting a signal            01/01/70 00:00      
      Yes but...?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Error analysis and budget            01/01/70 00:00      
   Common Mode suppression            01/01/70 00:00      

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