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07/30/09 01:38
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#168019 - Am I thinking in 2 Dimensions and you in 3D ?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Kai Klaas said:
Well, the whole world once learned from you the "zero", so it might be over-hasty to say anything bad about this notation...

Well, they better do. Otherwise, I have to propose this to the world committee of mathematics :-D

Kai Klaas said:
Take care with the words "upward acceleration" and "downward acceleration". It's correct, if you mean the additional acceleration vector also acting on the reference mass. But the method to make the reference mass feel this acceleration is quite opposite! To make the reference mass feel a downward acceleration of 2g you must accelerate the rocket upwards by 1g!

Yes you are right. I got the concept better now. I had a confusion about this which got solved.

Kai Klaas said:
Well, additionally measuring the centrifugal acceleration isn't probably of much interest, so take only one ADXL202, put it at the center of mass, read out the x and y signal and compare with the g vector to find out the roll and pitch tilt angles. The ADXL202 mounted at the center of gravity is immune against centrifugal accelerations anyway.

I will try to think about this more. I don't quite understand how with putting one accelerometer at the center of a flying robot (if this was what you meant)it would be possible to neglect the upward/downward acceleration and proceed to getting the angle directly. Maybe I am oonly considering 2 dimensions.

Kai Klaas said:
Why the authors have used two ADXL202 they don't even know either probably...

Perhaps so, I think I kinda remember other quad rotor projects using more than one accelerometers along Gyros. Have to go through them again more carefully to see the reasons for that.

Thanks a lot for your help and time.

I will have to think more as I said and come back with possible questions,
Farshid

List of 24 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Accelerometers as angle sensor, analog circuitry            01/01/70 00:00      
   Integrators ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Seems to work with subtraction            01/01/70 00:00      
         There's no need to use two of them...            01/01/70 00:00      
   A bunch of baloney??            01/01/70 00:00      
      Shame it won't work.            01/01/70 00:00      
         You can compensate for centrifugal accelerations, but not...            01/01/70 00:00      
            How to use Accelerometers as angle sensors            01/01/70 00:00      
               Bloody hell, are you trying to solve this relativistically?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  The problem            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Could this be correct?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Yes, if...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Understood but the theird method...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Upward and downward...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Am I thinking in 2 Dimensions and you in 3D ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Centrifugal acceleration            01/01/70 00:00      
               What I wanted to tell...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Filter you guess then ?            01/01/70 00:00      
         It is a differential amplifier...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Schematics            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, but still looking funny...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Gyroscope            01/01/70 00:00      
      Gyro            01/01/70 00:00      
      Gyro ?            01/01/70 00:00      

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