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07/28/09 03:56
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#167940 - Understood but the theird method...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Kai Klaas said:
Farshid, why do you calculate "2" to the power of "g"??

Think of an accleration sensor of a device containing a small reference mass "m" connected to a "spring", where the force acting on the mass (F = m x a) is determined by measuring the elongation of spring (Hook's law). As the reference mass is constant the elongation of spring is a direct measure of acceleration "a", where "a" is the sum of the "parallel" component of gravitational acceleration "g" and additional accelerations like tangential and centripetal acceleration. Everything then is self explaining.

Kai


Ahh, My bad! By the 'g' above the numbers I meant the unit not the number power 'g'. (I had a teacher which used to write the units above the number and I got used to it).

Both of your drawings show that placing two accelerometers in a line, pointing to one direction or to each other, will not cancel the effect of acceleration on the output. Thanks to your explanation and kind help I finally understood this :)
When accelerometers are pointing to each other, if summed up it won't work either. Since in all conditions the output will sum up to zero:



Kai Klaas said:
But if you mount them symmetrically to a rotation axis, then you can compensate for centrifugal accelerations. Put the two roll tilt sensors symmetrically to the roll axis, and the two pitch tilt sensors symmetrically to pitch axis (with there sensitive axes pointing to the rotation axes) and you can compensate for the corresponding centrifugal accelerations. This will also automatically compensate for rotations around the yaw axis.
Kai


I don't understand the third way that you suggested as a solution above.

- If I want to place them symmetrically then I can solder one on the top layer and one right below that one on the bottom layer. This way I have both of the 'X' axes pointing to one direction, but 'y' axes will be pointing in opposing directions (left and right)!

- Its possible to place them on top of each other so 'x' axes point to one direction and 'y' axes to one other direction. But this no longer would be symmetrical.


Thank you for your time and priceless help,
Farshid


List of 24 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Accelerometers as angle sensor, analog circuitry            01/01/70 00:00      
   Integrators ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Seems to work with subtraction            01/01/70 00:00      
         There's no need to use two of them...            01/01/70 00:00      
   A bunch of baloney??            01/01/70 00:00      
      Shame it won't work.            01/01/70 00:00      
         You can compensate for centrifugal accelerations, but not...            01/01/70 00:00      
            How to use Accelerometers as angle sensors            01/01/70 00:00      
               Bloody hell, are you trying to solve this relativistically?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  The problem            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Could this be correct?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Yes, if...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Understood but the theird method...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Upward and downward...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Am I thinking in 2 Dimensions and you in 3D ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Centrifugal acceleration            01/01/70 00:00      
               What I wanted to tell...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Filter you guess then ?            01/01/70 00:00      
         It is a differential amplifier...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Schematics            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, but still looking funny...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Gyroscope            01/01/70 00:00      
      Gyro            01/01/70 00:00      
      Gyro ?            01/01/70 00:00      

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