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02/13/07 20:51
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#132830 - Keil?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik Malund said:
They told me that they couldn't accurately predict cycle counts in Maxim/Dallas MCU's because some of them were not predictable.

1) to expect ANY toolmaker to fully support all 4711 derivatives of the '51 is ridiculous.

That they don't do it is one thing. That they come up with a nonsense argument is another.

Erik Malund said:
2) the 'cycle stretcher' in the Dallas chips DO make "cycle counts ... not predictable".

The only thing which can make cycle counts unpredictible is an external cycle-stretching input (aka WAIT) which AFAIK is in no commonly available '51. Even if there would be such, a "best case" cycle counting is always possible.

Erik Malund said:
If you run your thingy as a 'standard' '51 and divide by 3 you should be close enough
How did you come to that figure? Why not 5 or 7 or 9?

JW

PS I have to repeat my shameless self-advertising: for cycle counts why don't have a look at the "fast '51s" overview on my pages. It's available as excel sheet, too, and also an example is given ...



List of 13 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Cool assembler/compiler IDE feature....            01/01/70 00:00      
   No, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
   the other way round            01/01/70 00:00      
      Keil has something            01/01/70 00:00      
         interesting....            01/01/70 00:00      
            there is something in the simulator            01/01/70 00:00      
               I asked KEIL about that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  derivatives, derivatives            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Keil?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        12/4 = 3            01/01/70 00:00      
                           on 4-clockers            01/01/70 00:00      
               eh, on the simulator            01/01/70 00:00      
   Pinnacle 52 ?            01/01/70 00:00      

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