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06/22/06 14:27
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#118855 - Tuning instruments.
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Yes, I think that's what I meant. Maybe Andy can discuss about this a bit, as he is an educated piano player?

Playing several instruments myself, I can say that with some training, it is easy to hear when an interval is "clean" or not. No beat frequencies are necessary for tuning a piano this way (since the beat frequencies of two different notes would be way too high to count).

Whether this works even at very high audio frequencies (17kHz, or so) could easily be checked: Use two different audio amplifiers with two individual loudspeakers and output 17kHz by the one and 19kHz by the other. What can you hear now? (Take care, use rather small signals to not overload the tweeters...)

You could just mix the two signals digitally and play them. You would hear two separate tones (that is, if you can hear frequencies that high, and your audio equipment is of sufficient quality).

In order to get noticable intermodulation, you need to have a nonlinearity that has a rectifying characteristic (think "diode"). The human ear doesn't do that.



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High pitched ring tones            01/01/70 00:00      
   LM556            01/01/70 00:00      
   Download The Ring Tone.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Adding signals with two frequencies            01/01/70 00:00      
      Sure?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes, quite sure.            01/01/70 00:00      
            Intermodulation not beat frequencies            01/01/70 00:00      
               Remember piano tuners            01/01/70 00:00      
                  A test should tell it            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Tuning instruments.            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Yes, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Mixing 2 ultrasonic frequencys            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Cool!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 We experimented with the "ionovac"            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Mixing two rf signals            01/01/70 00:00      
   Adding signals with two frequencies            01/01/70 00:00      
   Don't do that!            01/01/70 00:00      
      I'm with Andy            01/01/70 00:00      
         active noise reduction            01/01/70 00:00      
         Rest your fears            01/01/70 00:00      
   a better idea            01/01/70 00:00      
   Detecting high pitch sounds            01/01/70 00:00      
      No, no, do it the hard way            01/01/70 00:00      

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