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06/07/06 04:31
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#117922 - Perhaps, but maybe not
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Craig Steiner said:

True, but the odds are higher that someone else will have also picked those numbers than any set of completely obscure, meaningless numbers. You don't have a lower chance of winning with 1-2-3-4-5-6, but you probably have a lower expected payout because of the number of people you'll have to share with.


Now that the world (or at least this part of it) knows that a seemingly "non-random" sequence has the same chance of winning, you may be right about the expected payoff.

On the other hand, people generally don't select completely obscure, meaningless numbers; they don't know how to pick a random sequence of numbers. One of my favorite stories for stat students is about the embezzlers in New York who got nailed because they didn't know about Benford's Law--but the attorney general of New York knew about it. They chose amounts for the checks they wrote that had about a one in a gazillion probability of being legitimate check amounts.

The point being that numbers chosen based on one's birthday or other personal data is not at all random and has a significant probability of being picked by others for different, but equally personal, reasons. (Significant in the context of the lottery.)



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      Well some say ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   True            01/01/70 00:00      
   random            01/01/70 00:00      
      Issac Asimov            01/01/70 00:00      
         Number base            01/01/70 00:00      
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   In wich calendar?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Not Yet            01/01/70 00:00      
      If you could keep us updated neil            01/01/70 00:00      
         Still Here            01/01/70 00:00      
      Did not end yet            01/01/70 00:00      
         What's this paper bag business ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            The Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe            01/01/70 00:00      
      No change here :)            01/01/70 00:00      
         Far North            01/01/70 00:00      
            Why in arabian numbers?            01/01/70 00:00      
               I like that, does it mean ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   666 why all the fuss            01/01/70 00:00      
   Null point            01/01/70 00:00      
      Mathematical riddle            01/01/70 00:00      
         Riddle - limerick?            01/01/70 00:00      
            The answer is            01/01/70 00:00      
               clever bugger            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Hey            01/01/70 00:00      
            A Hint            01/01/70 00:00      
      Higher odds            01/01/70 00:00      
         Perhaps, but maybe not            01/01/70 00:00      
   The Number of the Beast            01/01/70 00:00      
      Other numbers of the beast            01/01/70 00:00      
   is that it??            01/01/70 00:00      
   I think you broke your own "rule"            01/01/70 00:00      

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