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#143121 - This measurement can become a bit tricky... Responding to: ???'s previous message |
Christoph said:
Maybe I'll go through the trouble and actually do an ESR measurement on them. Shouldn't be too difficult with the calibrated signal generator and scope I have at work. Hhm, this measurement can become a bit tricky, because the ESR of such a cap is so small. More, as the inductance of cap might be much bigger it could cover the ESR. Equivalent series circuit at 100kHz of such a cap is: C=3300µF, Lc is about 15...30nH, Rc<9mOhm (hopefully) The impedances at 100kHz are then: ZC = 0.5mOhm, ZL = 10...20mOhm and R <9mOhm (hopefully). So, if you take your signal generator and feed a 100kHz sine into a series circuit of suited resistance (R) and cap, in order to drive a "constant" current into it, then you might notice, that the signal drop across cap is very very low: Assume you can drive a R=600Ohm load by a 10V sine, resulting in a current of 10V / 600Ohm = 16.7mA, then the voltage drop across a 20mOhm impedance will be about 330µV! So, I would recommend to amplify the voltage drop across cap by a suited amplifier. For this measurement the following equivalent circuit is valid: Take note, that C does not appear, it's just so small, that its impedance can be neglected. Rc can then be gained by a simple amplitude and phase measurement according to the following mathematics: Kai |
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