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04/05/07 05:25
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#136646 - Google
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Hi Craig,

I didn't say they took a moral stand or defended some great principle of freedom. They did, in both cases, what's in the best interest of their business.


Which is pretty much my point (if a bit more succinct).
In my estimation the only consistent explanation of their behavior is that they will, at every turn, pander to the lowest and most vile common denominator in order to make a buck, and in point of fact have done just that.


Of course, I find myself wondering why corporations can be expected to be good socially conscious corporate citizens in every other area of life, but not in this case. But I'm getting ahead of myself.

Where you and I part ways is in the following.
In the case of what they did at home, it happened to also be in the interested of privacy of private citizens which I happen to think is the interest of freedom.


First, you are factually wrong. The Justice Department, as I pointed out earlier, was not asking for any identifying data. They asked for nothing that could be used to identify anyone. They only wanted to see aggregate statistical data. This wasn't about privacy for anyone, even if you accept the assertion a penumbral inference as sacrosanct.

Free speech is the debate of ideas and ideals. Obscenity on the other hand, is just vulgar. It is not free speech and, for the record, it is not protected by the First Amendment or any other part of our Constitution. And most importantly of all (and this is the really important part if any pedophiles are out there reading this), there is no freedom for anyone to prey on my children.

And so Google did nothing to take a stand for freedom.

Freedom makes government weaker and society stronger. This, on the other hand, is called decadence for a reason. It causes, it is, social decay. It does not make society stronger. To the contrary it weakens our society so that government has no choice but to become stronger. And that, by definition, is the loss of freedom.

So in contrast to the notion that Google might have taken a stand for freedom, the reality is that all they did was add a little bit more to the social necrosis from which we are already crumbling. Oh, to be sure, you are right to worry about the proverbial "slippery slope." But you would do well to recognize that we are already at the bottom.

We don't need to worry about sliding down this slope. We need to think about climbing back up before its too late. If we don't it won't be long before we witness consequences that today seem ridiculous.

We've already come to the point that the First Amendment protects Hugh Hefner and Larry Flint, while simultaneously preventing high school seniors from praying at their own graduations. What would the founding fathers have thought if someone had told them it would come to this? Forget the founding fathers. What would our grandfathers have thought? What would your grandfather have thought if you'd have told him that in 2006 a U.S. Army Chaplin would be court martialed for praying in Jesus' name? What would your grandfather have thought if you'd have told him that in 2007 a U.S. Marine General and member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff would face loosing his career for having the audacity to point out that homosexuality is immoral? Now tell me how long do you think it will be before people in England, or elsewhere in Europe, will be put in prison for saying that pedophiles shouldn't be allowed to molest children?

No Craig. Google didn't keep us off of the "slippery slope." They just helped push us a little further down it.



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