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02/28/11 14:45
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#181338 - the thrack sound
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Per Westermark said:
Michael Karas said:
Edit: Let me add - If an "off" device's high side input protection diode tries to clamp the signal line voltage to the ~1.2 volt level that I mentioned it is possible that the clamp level voltage may rise higher as the "off" device tries to power itself up internally. Due to this behavior it is possible to see the clamping voltage level which may rise to even over 2 volts and becomes dependent on source impedance of the signal line coming from the MCU. Karas

Yes, I have accidentally managed to power modem chips so they start running their crystal oscillator by just forgetting to tristate the SPI slave-select line when the modem was turned off. Lots of "funny" things can happen when a powerful microcontrollers drives an output high, and that output goes to an unpowered chip.


Yes indeed. Chips and other circuitry powered by current leakage paths through protection diodes and through improperly biased voltage rails on multi rail parts can lead to some very strange problems. The worst case is when a system has a standby supply with an improper design and some current leakage path triggers a latent PNPN junction stack on a chip. Later when the main power rail comes on there can be a POW and the device is asked to let out its magic smoke and be reduced to white ash.

I actually had a DELL desktop computer that expired in this manner. At the end of one work day the computer was put into its hibernate mode whilst some test circuitry hooked up to a USB port was left powered. The next morning when entering the office and turning on the computer there was a thrack sound and the computer would not boot. Later inspection reveaked a small 2-3 mm hole in the main motherboard chipset component that had a white powder coming out of it.

Michael Karas




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TopicAuthorDate
Devices in Parallel in Board            01/01/70 00:00      
   Not generally a good idea!            01/01/70 00:00      
      Any solution            01/01/70 00:00      
         Solution for what?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Or sometimes resistors            01/01/70 00:00      
               The real question is...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Devices Connected To Same Pins            01/01/70 00:00      
      Sometimes driven chip starts to operate from ghost power            01/01/70 00:00      
         the thrack sound            01/01/70 00:00      

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